Steer kingpin movement limit?

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  1. MRMTRANS

    MRMTRANS Medium Load Member

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    I applied a pry bar underneath each steer axle wheel, with a tape measure lined up vertically, to measure how much upward movement. Does anyone know what the limit is when the kingpins should be replaced? TIA.
     
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  3. Diesel Dave

    Diesel Dave Last Few of the OUTLAWS

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    Are you sure the movement isn’t from the wheels bearings ? If any……
     
  4. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    It's a two man job because you can't see the knuckle moving and using the pry bar simultaneously. I'd say anything over 1/4 inch would be too much. If you're doing it solo you could very well be seeing/feeling wheel bearing endplay.
     
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  5. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    Hope you don't have an international prostar. They’ll change the whole front axle.
     
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  6. JB7

    JB7 Heavy Load Member

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    It is not upward movement. It is more back and forth. Watch this short video for a demonstration of kingpin wear.
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iphXJ1rKssU?feature=share
     
  7. MRMTRANS

    MRMTRANS Medium Load Member

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    No, it's not loose wheel bearings. I took the pry bar on the wheels (metal) to try to feel any free play. I've replaced my own wheel bearings for years, and never have a problem with my own work, and know when their loose. I was just inspecting kingpins-not feeling any problems while driving-while I had the front end off the ground. It has been 10 years+/ 1 million miles+ since they were replaced. I'm putting some effort, and $, to keep the truck around for another 500-750k hopefully. The wheel movement is between 1/16-1/8 inch on both sides.
     
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  8. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    They will always have some sort of play that you'll be able to feel and some of that play comes from the wheel bearings unless you recently set them at 0 thousandths on a dial indicator.

    If you can see it moving more than a quarter inch or so I'd say replacement them or try to grease them good and try again. If your tire wear is ok I wouldn't worry about it.
     
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  9. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    So from the wheel end you can tell the difference between loose wheel bearings and loose king pins? I doubt that.

    My trick is to set my phone to video and set it up on the inside, then move the wheel. You'll find out for sure where it's moving
     
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  10. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    Or a lonestar. It costs a good $2500 minimum.
     
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    wore out Numbered Classic

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    You’re not worried about vertical movement as there’s no way not to have that. Your are worried about moving the pin on its axis. Don’t stick the bar under the tire but through a hole in wheel on to the top of drum. Then pry. As stated above you need to determine is slack in wheel end or the steering knuckle
     
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