is a pretrip inspection required ...

You should log whatever time it took. If under 15 minutes you should draw a line down in the remarks section showing the location and the actual time(5 minutes, 10 minutes etc.).

 

actually she didn't say your shouldn't log it. She said you don't need too if it's less than 15 minutes. However, the failback with eLog is it's now a 5 minute minimum..

I usually post-trip the things I know will not change overnight and pre-trip the things that can. i.e a light can burn out the second it's powered up. Unless you have a leak fluid levels are unlikely to change overnight. Now I do look for signs of leaks..

If the tire tread wear changes overnight I would be looking for some type of alien abduction

 

No she said you have to mark 15 minutes, and I explained why this is not true. That said, I know some companies expect their drivers to show 15 minutes.

That's up to the individual, all the regs state is that a driver be satisfied that the vehicle is in safe operating condition and to prepare a written report at the completion of each day's work. Doesn't say a driver has to inspect, so how one accomplishes this is up to him/her.

 

Although you may enter such information in the remarks, there is no regulatory requirement to do so. Company policy may dictate otherwise.

 

Most guys on Elogs get up in the start of their day, change status to OnDuty/Pretrip then go into the truck stop to drop their morning glory after they brush their tooth and pour out their giant coffee cup full of pee into the sink and grab a cup of coffee and some Twinkies and donuts,slim jims and redhots. By the time they come back to the truck enough time has passed they can start rolling right away, they don't even need to bother with the Elogs because it will automatically change status to On Duty/ Drive after 7/8ths of a mile. At the end of their day, they click On Duty/Post Trip for 2 minutes while they open up their driver door and stand on the step to pee like one of those cherub plaster pee boys next to your backyard pool.

 

Many companies require that you do 15 minute pretrip and post-trip inspections. On the legal end, you are "Required" to do a 15 minute post-trip inspection at the end of your driving day. if you are driving overnight, then you should have a postrip inspection marked prior to midnight and can still continue driving. Reguardless, you Must have a 15 minute post trip inspection for each day. If you are the tyoe that spends the daylight hours driving, you can get away with a 7 minute pretrip (your average walk-around inspection) but Must finish the day with a 15 minute post-trip, BOTH must be logged.

 

There are no set regulations on the time to do a pretrip or post trip. You are to fill out the inspection report at the completion of your day.

The only regulations are that your equipment is in good working order before using it.
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The main thing is to follow the guidelines set by your safety guy. I've seen different companies do it different ways.

For the most part, I've been doing 15 minute pretrips and flag the post trip for years. I've been through many inspections and audits and never got in trouble.

Even eLogs are programmable and are set up by the safety guy the way he wants it. They are the ones that know and have a relationship with the auditor. Their particular auditor tells them what they expect.

 

All false. There is no regulatory requirement for any inspection to be of a specified time. ON-DUTY (including DRIVING) activities of less than 15 minutes can be "flagged" (with the actual time, i.e., "8 minutes", noted in the remarks). Nor is there any requirement to conduct any inspection prior to midnight (how is it possible to conduct a post-trip inspection whilst mid-trip?).

 

I can't speak about companies systems other than the one I work with, but ours back-clocks you 15 minuted for a pre-trip as soon as you go to line 3. And at the end of your driving, prior to midnight, you have to send an inspection macro, or you'll get a computer generated nastygram the next day.

If you drive through midnight, you're required to send the macro as soon as you stop driving.

 

How does that work? I guess you just take 10:15 break minimum before you put it in gear?