Where in texas were you at???
$2.50 mile for an OS that is INCLUSIVE is just plain crazy. Why the heck would you even consider that????
Landstar@#@#%^^$#@@!!!!!!!!
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by dhooks, Jul 29, 2012.
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If you read the thread I explain id rather net 2.25 a,mile after permits then run for 1.40 on general freight when I had 2 be home.
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Why not? It's ######## how companies can rip you off once the freight in on your truck. You get a service, you pay for it. I have had to threaten agents twice that I would sue them and their customer for "truck ordered, not used". You order a truck, I show up, you pay. That's not negotiable.
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Cause that's just a bad attitude and bad business. Better face up to the fact they really do have most of the cards. You going to let a minor screwing over by one bad agency mess up your relationship as a whole with the entire company (there are many reputable agencies with LS) and Pi$$ off corporate just to make a point? In situations where I THOUGHT I was about to get screwed over big time, we've always managed to handle the issue without losing our tempers and making threats. Even gotten corporate involved a few times and guess what, they've batted for us which earned great respect. You'll catch more flies with honey than you will poop. Things can be made right sometimes. Sometimes they can't. You just chalk it up to bad load and move on. But red flagging your operation with the entire system by threatning lawsuits and federal marshall raids is only going to hurt you long term.EddieK, fireba11, DrtyDiesel and 3 others Thank this.
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wow... 6 pages and people are still complaining and crying.
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You make me chuckle...
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Landstar has its share of crappy loads and agents typically won't tell you or don't know themselves the negatives to a load. For example I took a load that I thought would be a easy pick up and deliver "no touch". At least that's what the agent tells you. I ended up picking up at a hotel cleaning out old furniture and waited 5 hours for a two man crew to load a 53" van full of crap pressed wood furniture and small appliances, lamps etc. The other end (delivery) was just about as bad. Milieage pay was not great and because it was a third party freight company handling the load. Their was virtually no chance of getting any kind of detention pay. Let's be honest about Landstar in general. They lack the ability to get a lot of decent freight. They deal mostly with JIT, un covered freight, freight that used be covered by LTL but now Landstar does it cheaper so they get it. I cannot remember a time I went from warehouse to warehouse with a full load of van freight. Its always something odd and unique and takes a lot of time to complete. Its not friendly freight for sure. Then you get Landstar trying to sell you on freight the agent calls CS crying because they cannot cover it. They cannot cover it because nobody want's to haul it. Its either going into a bad outbound freight area or it just plain pays to little. A truck load carrier should be just that. Over dimensional should pay really well and if it don't then don't haul it. Best thing to do with Landstar is ask a lot of questions about the load and if the agent cannot answer them then pass on the load.
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I drive for Landstar and Landstar gets plenty of good freight. But Landstar trucks pull that freight. The scrub loads that LS drivers won't haul goes on the broker board cuz someone out there will haul it. -
You're wrong on that one. I haul lots of high dollar freight that any BCO would be a fool not to take.
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The issue is with over 8000 Landstar BCO's their is not enough decent loads out there in many places to keep them happy. Sure I know of several Landstar BCO's who have made decent connections for loads with certain agents. But for every one of those kind of success stories their are plenty who do not have that luck. I am not dissing Landstar as being the only O/O company that has this issue.. Have heard the same from Dart and the other big companies that use owner operators. The trouble is their is no real incentive for agents to try and get better loads. They have a much more fixed expenses and all they care about is booking the load. Don't care if its a Landstar truck that hauls it or someone else. This is the trucking industry. Nobody cares as long as the load get's hauled. My concern is that you have a minority of successful BCO's and the rest deal with what they can find. This is why turnover rate happens and get's worse. This is a problem for every Landstar BCO as even those who have good loads have to realize that if the presure to lower rates is out there. Even your "good" loads may well one day be bad loads or no loads at all.
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