Hello all,
I have been meaning to write this up for a while... here goes...
I took a job a few years back for a local company delivering corrugated cardboard I had been applying to many companies after I sold a business. Went on their website and filled out app... I see a phone # and decided to call. Well somehow I get transferred to the Safety dept. and I start just chatting with the guy and he says you know what can you meet me sat. morning for a road test, I say sure and meet and take test. He says all is good can I meet his boss during the week and I say yes meet him he says can I see you drive I say of course... after his test he says when can you start.
I ask several questions about the job hours, benefits, etc. etc. He says hours to start are 12-10pm M-F. then when there is an opening you can move to mornings. I was going to be the night yardman and do local runs in between backing in trucks. All good so far right...
First day I am told that we would be running a little late that I would be getting out after 11pm... and to get used to it because we never run earlier than that... interesting just got first lie out of the way... also I was under the management of the manufacturer not my employer... and the supervisor was a real incompetent fool... always creating extra work moving trucks from one door to another for no reason. You know the type.
I was being paid an hourly rate for yard work and a trip rate for whenever I took a load out... here is where I would like your input:
When I am working as a yardman am I off duty? They also made it that if I worked less than an hour in the yead I did not get paid for it... essentially working for free...
The company had me working 14 hours every day... I really could not believe it, it was the worst job I had ever had... they even dispatched me 12 hours into my shift and said it was ok because once a week you can work 16 for emergencies... yea ok...
Needless to say I fired them.... I would love to hear feedback about this because I believe OTR would be better than this...
Local Vs. OTR
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by maffy95, Dec 1, 2013.
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Short haul companies do get 1 16 hour day per 70. You are "on duty" while working in the yard. If you hate working 12-14 hours than you aren't going to like OTR. Sure, you can work as little hours as you want but you aren't going to make any money.
How do you not know this after 26 years as a trucker?blairandgretchen and pattyj Thank this. -
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Except for the no pay for less then an hour on the yard sounds pretty standard. Who care's how many trailers you have to move your getting paid by the hour to do it. Welcome to truck driving, OTR will have NO SET Schedule and you will do some free work.
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That,s right, only the Drivers get abused no matter what position your in!pattyj and blairandgretchen Thank this.
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guess you got your answer, but anytime working, whether in the yard or not, you are on duty
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Is this Gardner? They have some cardboard hauling accounts in my area
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The no pay for less than an hour work sounds like them. Last I heard they don't pay deadhead miles for company drivers either.blairandgretchen Thanks this.
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Dang, I wish I only had to work 14 hours a day, LOL...
In all seriousness though... If working for 14 hours does bother you, you want to stay away from OTR. Although there are days where you do a lot of sitting, most days you will run your clock out if the company you work for is worth anything. (And not doing so will result in the local McDonalds cook making more than you do).
Most major companies use e-logs nowadays, and they can see exactly how much time you have on your clock. If you have something you should be doing, they're going to expect you to run out every minute you have available. I have, on many occasions, "worked" beyond 14 hours, if you count everything that is actually related to my job, like paperwork, trip planning, getting the truck and trailer cleaned, and all those other little things that no one logs "on duty" for (in an effort to save their 70 hour clock).
In fact, that tells you everything you need to know right there: we are legally allowed to work 70 hours on duty per week. You can bet they're going to make you use every minute of that if they have the work available.RizenPhoenix and blairandgretchen Thank this. -
Realist rick and negative Nelly pretty much nailed it all - but if I'm reading between the lines you may be happier with OTR.
I like OTR as it allows me to be a brat, and adequate distance from any form of bosses or nitwit coworkers.maffy95 and RizenPhoenix Thank this.
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