O/O what are you charging per mile? Im getting crazy ranges and need some explaining?

Here is a real quick lesson in economics. I'll tell ya what I told a shipper a few years back. Why would I pull your freight when I can load 2 miles down the road, going to the same town, for 1500 dollars more. But go on and toss around your insults. Fyi, I have an MIT education. Ill put that degree up against anyone's. Thanks and have a good day.

 

A few did. More remarked that it looked like I had done my homework and wished me well. It's all here in a thread I hijacked after the OP got the input he didn't want to hear and vamoosed.

To be fair, I think OP said he was paying others $1,800 up to $3,000 to move his own cargo. He is the shipper. Sounds more like he's angling to move his cargo on his own truck and save a few more dollars, then get paid for a backhaul. Same thing a lot of farmers do. My prediction is: he'll do ok if his drivers make enough to stick around and don't tear up the truck. It won't be the money maker it looks like on paper though.

You're too smart for your own good. Georgia State '99 here. That science stuff was too hard, so I went the easy route with a business major.

 

Found this VERY VERY clever.

To OP- are you affiliated with mad dog truck repair?

 

I'm guessing the "new" brokering rules have something to do with it, they have to have the ability to haul 70 or 80%(not real sure of the # I didn't pay that close attention because it really doesn't apply to me) of their own freight.

 

Yeah .... it is you... and whoever you get to take that load..and most trucks won't get 7mpg now....

 

Its your attitude that is rubbing people the wrong way - we see this all the time. You're tapping into hundreds if not thousands of years of education at the university of hard knocks here, and sounding like everybody's 18 year old kid . . . . that knows everything and says "I know" all the time.

If you read other threads where people present numbers and ask "what do you think?", you'll see they take the advice, adjust, re-present, ask, query, and learn.

I've learned a lot at the expense of other people's egos.

Learn a little humility. People skills you will need if you want to keep drivers at 40cpm without benefits.

 

you may give a man a fish and he may have a meal for the day. but teaching a man to fish so he has lifetime meals. better teach him real good. cuz that first breakdown he has with your rate. will put him out of business. and you'll be looking for another sucker to haul your cheap freight.

my guess is, your probably taking advantage of the cheap NON american labor that's out there. who's trucks probably can't get past the scale without being put OOS. becuase your too cheap so they can fix their rigs.

THAT, my friend, is economics 101. AMERICAN STYLE.

 

Those that offer to haul it for 2500 or less have steady loads picking up in McAllen and they HAVE to get their trucks back there asap. Those who bid it for 4000 have nowhere to be and are just trying to make money. From my view point you getting your own truck is a no win in terms of profit. You're already getting your southbound loads moved at or just above cost. Unless you already have arrangements made for loads returning to Chicago you will be at the mercy of some broker just like you who has loads delivering where you need your truck to go and is going to give you a taste of your own medicine.

 

Am I missing something? If you are getting them moved for 1800 to 2500, on 1450 miles, and the system is working for you and that is a good price for you, then why do you want to rock the boat? Do you have any idea the extra headaches involved and paperwork required and DOT audits and dealing with scale houses and truck drivers that do quirky things for unknown reasons, you really want to deal with all that so you can pocket marginally more money at the end of the year, (maybe) ??? Nevermind making your insurance and equipment payments every month ...

Are you the designated shipping person at a company, who the big boss has told you the budget for these loads is $3000 per load? Maybe you are thinking you could start your own trucking company and get him for $3,000 per load. Wonder how long it will last when he says "hey, why is it 3,000 every time now and before it was 1800 to 2500? - find different trucking companies!" Now you have your own trucks and the run you have you thought you were making money on evaporated in a snap. Now what? Those payments are still coming every month whether you are earning revenue or not. Do you have a backup plan for this? Even at say $2 per mile at the end of your 1450 miles, what are YOU going to load YOUR truck with now on the way home? Or you going to come home empty? Now you are down to $1 per mile. Oh gosh, that truck still ate fuel and wore the tires down and got closer to an oil change on the homeward leg. That pesky driver wants his 0.40 per mile to drive it home too. How much was insurance/equipment payments again (per mile) ? Dang ....

Just keep throwing around insults about other people's education, since you have this all figured out .. you go for it. Here is a tip - drivers are more likely to keep working for you if you buy them a new Peterbilt 389. Keeps driver retention lower. You should know all about employee retention with all your smarts.