why do roadside inspections take so long?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by loose_leafs, Sep 1, 2014.

  1. loose_leafs

    loose_leafs Road Train Member

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    I knew I was legal and had nothing to worry about...I wasn't in the mood to argue with him anyway. He didnt seem to happy to be laboring on labor day...
     
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  3. Crash935

    Crash935 Medium Load Member

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    Dont leave them sitting in the open (any receipts) and all receipts and bol's for past loads get buried in the back of the clipboard or binder.
     
  4. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Because they can.
     
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  5. fuzzeymateo

    fuzzeymateo Heavy Load Member

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    Why are you giving him anything more than is required? Receipts are not; after all, you just dropped them in the mail this morning. The AZ DOT is a joke, when I got stopped I just tell them I don't have time for an inspection (in a tactful way). Usually it works, or it has on two occasions. The officer may get upset but I don't have time for their Mickey Mouse nonsense. BTW, that 387 is a place they love to do inspections on but you probably knew that already.
     
  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    They have every right to ask for whatever "supporting documents" they feel like asking for, no warrants necessary. You are not required to have anything other than your CDL, med card, "og book (unless local), BOL, insurance, cab card registration (truck & trailer) and proof of an annual inspection (truck & trailer). If they ask for receipts or anything else, you can choose to hand them over (which you are supposed to do if you have them) or tell the officer you don't have any and make up a story why (i.e. fuel billed electronically, so I don't need a receipt from the pump) to justify why you don't have any receipts. Now if they don't believe you, they can use a vehicle inspection (i.e. checking for bunk restraints) to gain access to the inside of the truck and if receipts are in plain view, they've caught you lying and stop will be off in a new direction. If you thought you were heavily scrutinized before, just wait 'til you're caught in a lie!

    Bottom line, the company is required to keep those supporting documents, so if they really want to see them, they can audit your logs at the company's office. Since you aren't required to have them with you in the truck, there is nothing they can do about it if you deny having them with you...unless they find them after you claim they weren't there.
     
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  7. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    I ran through Arizona last Saturday on I-8 and I-10, and saw over 20 trucks pulled over in the middle of the day. Yesterday we rolled from New Mexico to Dallas and it was the same thing, lots of trucks pulled over. I think there's some kind of Operation Proctologist going on that wasn't announced beforehand.

    Last year I got pulled over in AZ during one of their OP's, and it took about an hour. In our case the inspector took our logbooks (no receipts) and spent time on her computer to calculate whether we could legally drive the distances shown on our paper logs. We ended up getting a warning for logging Off Duty too long in a moving truck.
     
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  8. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    Supporting documents, receipt, BOL

    C'mon, folks. If your BOL has a time-stamp, like most of mine do, you logged that as 'on duty', right? And if you still have a scale or fuel receipt, you logged that as 'on duty', didn't you?

    So why would you want to declare war over it?
     
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  9. 12 ga

    12 ga THE VIEW FROM MY OFFICE

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    The new regs are have changed so you don't have to carry your medical card, it is held by your home state DMV. I believe that is already n effect.
     
  10. Pahrump

    Pahrump Medium Load Member

    An hour is not bad for a level 5 inspection done right,,I had a Calif Level 5 done on I-5 near Vacaville done in 5 mins,,inspector need one more inspection that day before he went home.

    Required documents are
    1. Drivers License
    2. DOT medical card
    3. Manifest.
    4. DOT HAZMAT book if you are hauling HAZMAT
    5.Tractor and trailer registration
    6. Annual DOT Vehicle Inspection
    7. UCR Registration
    8. IFTA Card
    9. Logbook
    10. Carrier Passenger auth letter (if you have a passenger
    11. Oversize permits
    12. Insurance Card
    13. Carrier lease agreement if you are an O/O

    You do not have to answer questions any thing you say can an WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU
    Any other documents you present are voluntary and CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU.

    In the DOT inspectors hand book it tells the inspector to ask the driver for his documents and while reviewing the book and documents to casually ask the driver where and what he has been doing the past few days, They might ask if you saw the football game the day or two before and see if you answer matches your log book. IF your log book is not currant the inspector is supposed to return it to the driver and make it currant,,there is no time limit to do this.
    He is trying to trip the driver up.
    If while reviewing your log book and he ask where you started this morning you tell him "It is written in my log book"
    You might tell him I started in Los Angels when you log book says Santa Fe Springs, Do not say anything to the inspector, it can only get you in trouble.
    I had a Wisconsin cop once ask for my CB License back when they were required,,told him I did not have to show him my CB license,,he got pissed but I got away with no tickets.
    I learned all this several years ago when I happened to get a copy of the DOT Inspectors hand book..

    Lot's of stuff in there that they do not want drivers to know.
    BTW Arkansas scales are run by the State Police and their drug task force..Utah,Colorado, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona as well as others use commercial vehicle stops to try and find drugs,,Since Colarado and Washing started selling marijuana neighboring states are also doing stops to try and find drugs,,
     
  11. SunnyRoadTrucker

    SunnyRoadTrucker Bobtail Member

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    Because not every law enforcement know about trucking industrie.
    Troopers and Hwy Patrols can pull you over and do roadside inspection.
    If police or sheriff pulles you over they wount do roadside inspection!
     
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