90 Mile proposed rule change

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by BROKENSPROKET, Feb 13, 2015.

  1. BROKENSPROKET

    BROKENSPROKET Medium Load Member

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    I am biting my tongue so hard right now to keep this thread from bein moved to 'Trucker Rants,.

    I read somewhere that there was a proposed rule change that any driver that has run out of time on any military base or shipper/receiver that prohibits 10 resets on their property, that a driver will have 90 miles to find a safe parking spot for a 10 hour reset. Force us to break regulations for some asinine corporate policy. The night shift doesn't give a ####, but they don't want to get in trouble for allowing.



    They better pass it. Just saying. I hate falsifying a log page, or should say 2, because shippers that do have the room, prohibit parking. I want an ELD. I will be on paper, til they are mandatory. I am running very close to 100% compliant til tonight. I don't want to be like a fish out of water when every truck has one. I run as hard as I can, honoring the 11and 14 hour rules. That 8 hour rule can be a pain some days, but not too often.

    If they don't pass it, ATA better be ready to start suing shipper/receivers force us to leave their property, putting us in violation of HOS.
     
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  3. WitchingHour

    WitchingHour Road Train Member

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    You still think that ATA's actually on your side? They're just another corporate lobby, like any other.. representing their clients, which is not the whole of the trucking industry, by the way.
     
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  4. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    90 miles still isn't enough in some areas of the country. and that 90 miles could easily surpass 2 hours driving.
     
  5. RetiredUSN

    RetiredUSN Medium Load Member

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    Well......if you empty out at one of these places, you can log off duty and drive to a safe haven. Loaded is another story I guess. I hope they come up with something that actually works for the driver for a change. I'm with you!
     
  6. david123abc

    david123abc Heavy Load Member

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    An interesting point was made by the vp of training at my company about customers that don't allow parking.

    All it's going to take is one major accident where a driver is forced off a large company's property and he is overy his hours. The attorneys go for the biggest fish they can find to sue, and Swift or Werner or any of the largest companies are small potatoes compared to the companies the pick up and deliver at.

    When Wal-Mart or Kraft or someone has to pay $50 or $100 million because they forced a driver to break the law and leave their property, you will see designated parking areas at every place you go.
     
  7. BROKENSPROKET

    BROKENSPROKET Medium Load Member

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    I agree, but why should it have to come to that. Most places I pick up and deliver to already allow overnight parking.

    The place I left last night, it is against corporate policy to allow overnight parking to sleep. . Night shift will look other way, IF its not too obvious that they are.

    EDIT: I pull a flatbed, it that matters.
     
  8. loose_leafs

    loose_leafs Road Train Member

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    Even some of the C & S grocery places, as nasty as they are allow parking before and after appointments, within reason.

    I see no reason a place like walmart can't allow, within reason, as long as they have the room.

    When I say within reason, I mean that the driver has to have either made a p/u or del there, and if space is scarce must prove he is out of time or soon to be, and their is no other safe haven close by to go to.

    Looking at it from the standpoint of WalMart, what some of these large companies might be afraid of is having drivers treat a busy DC like a regular truck stop or rest area, thinking they can just come park there as they please.
     
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  9. WallyWife

    WallyWife Medium Load Member

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    If you could see how some drivers treat DC's like they do truck stops, then it is perfectly understandable why said DC's would limit parking.

    Drivers are their own worst enemies.

    As far as stores go, the only time layovers are not permitted at WM stores is if their are city/town/subdivision ordinances against it.
     
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  10. buzzarddriver

    buzzarddriver Road Train Member

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    Never heard of this "proposed" rule. It would never pass in the first place. You have 11 hours to drive in your 14 hour day. If this were to become effective, then you would be allowed 12.5 hours. I can just hear all the stories driver's will be telling the cop that stops them that they got kicked out of the place they were picking up or delivering.
    What happens when the cop knows for a fact the place you just left in fact does allow parking. Where does that leave you?
    Never going to happen.
     
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  11. Danvitt

    Danvitt Light Load Member

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    What if they got rid of all the drive rules and just made it illegal to kill someone with an 80k GCW vehicle? Just a thought.
     
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