Frustrated ref Elog HOS. Need suggestions please.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by C & C, Feb 26, 2015.

  1. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Yes you can drive up to two hrs over under adverse conditions. But even using this you cannot go past your 14 hr limit.
     
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  3. KANSAS TRANSIT

    KANSAS TRANSIT Road Train Member

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    True, but the way I read the OP was that he was at the 12hr mark when he ran out of drive time. If he was stopped in traffic for 15 minutes, and would have recorded that as on-duty (sitting-not driving) he would of made his destination with no violation.
     
  4. RetiredUSN

    RetiredUSN Medium Load Member

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    You got screwed by your load planner, dispatcher, and lastly, yourself.

    Here is some thing else you didn't do..................... call the Shipper/Receiver and ask what the real drop dead time is on the load. You don't always have to deliver by the time the company puts on the QualCom. That is a time that they use to pre-plan you for your next load. Load planners can be complete idiots when they send drivers into bad weather or traffic regions. JB HUNT used to hate me because they would leave me hanging for a full day before I finally got dispatched. Hard to time your sleep when they were being inconsistent and not pre-planning. I would get loads that needed to be some wheres 550 miles overnight. I started calling the receivers to get the real deliver time. Some deliveries were set times and others not. The loads that had wiggle room?................screw em! It gets there when it gets there. It's not a one way street. I told my new driver manager at SNI about my experience with JB, and he was surprised and appreciated that I knew about this. He said that he would always tell me if I asked. If I didn't ask......he would assume that I was good to go. He knew that drivers were not robots.
     
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  5. C & C

    C & C Light Load Member

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    A lot of knowledge being passed on here, some of which I NEVER considered .I appreciate every single one!

    I'll start with keeping abreast of the rules AND company policy. I should have known better based on past experiences and still, I screwed myself. I asked about going to line 4 and the answer was no. I need to find that rule in black and white towards being better prepared. KT -yes I was out of drive time only.

    Razor, your post #27 is exactly how I feel about the HOS rules in general. However, need to work on my game “trip” plan nonetheless.

    PJ, I will heed what you’ve said except for growing some balls. My husband wouldn’t like that at all!

    RetiredUSN, thanks for another tool for my tool belt. I didn’t know and now I know.
     
  6. TexTrucker

    TexTrucker Medium Load Member

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    Something I didn't see mentioned was.. you knew from the start that it was going to be tight. When you were sitting in Florida for an accident, you should of called dispatch then and told them there was an issue and try to get rescheduled. Communication is the key.
     
  7. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Why is it when someone who has a couple years driving can't figure out how to deal with time management and trip planning, they blame the rules for being unfair. I mean with thousands of trucks out there, many many of them don't seem to have a problem with getting things moved with these rules.

    everything runs by the clock ...
     
  8. Ebola Guy

    Ebola Guy Heavy Load Member

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    TexTrucker stole my thunder literally word for word. :)

    Here is how I would've handled it from the get-go.

    600+ mi run.... grab the calculator, assuming a 50 mph avg. (Always better to assume a slower speed to account for unforeseens). .... 12 hr drive time.

    Ok is the pick up an appt or a open window? An 8 am appt? Let's see if 8 am is do-able.

    There is 12 hr drive time, plus a 10 hr break, plus 15 min pretrip, (if fueling, add another 30 minutes). So it is 1420, add those times, the earliest I could be at the shipper would be 1035. Before even moving the truck, I'd be on the phone or messaging the dispatcher and tell them 11am is when I can be there. And let them make the call on what to do.
     
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  9. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    I was going to say the same thing-- whatever the miles are double them then multiply by .01

    635x2 = 1270 x .01= 12.7 hours drive time.
     
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  10. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    635 miles, divided by 49 mph is 12.95 or 13 hours. add in 10 hours off duty and 1 hour misc 24 hours. As stated earlier. You have to keep it simple. So if your dispatched and loaded by say 10 am you can deliver by noon tomorrow and have plenty of time to be early for your estimate, shower and all.
     
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  11. HotH2o

    HotH2o Road Train Member

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    That's what scares me.....
     
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