Crossing midnight

Now feel free to correct me but if you are sitting waiting on a flat or light to be fixed isn't that on duty time since you will have to move the truck when repair is complete

 

I think that depends on where you are. I have had several flats fixed while on a 10 or 34.

 

Not disagreeing with @wore out , just some food for thought for those of you who are having trouble making money.
If you are waiting for a repair, and you go eat in a restaurant, drop the kids off at the superbowl and shower, how would you log that? 7 hours go by and you finally get the truck out of the shop and you have 400 miles to run to meet an appointment.

 

I know how I would run it. I get scolded all the time and accused of ridin the outlaw trail just cause I'm on paper lol. I think it's funny to watch folks (none here that I'm aware of) scold me for my book then in another thread talk bout there dirty little secret lmao

 

Yeah. Was at the TA in Laredo and overheard a driver try to explain to the shop why he needed them to get him in the shop at a specific hour. They were ready for him and wanted him to pull into the shop, but he was on his 10. He wanted to finish his 10 and pull into a bay at that exact moment. I got a good laugh from that.

They call you an Outlaw because you do what they wont. You call them Coward because they do what you wouldn't.

 

That gentleman that needed to finish his 10 hour break on his E-logs before getting in the shop may have needed to do that because of a persnicity safety department at his carrier. They might be comparing his log to a Comdata transaction.

That's speculation of course, but I wouldn't put it past a carrier to ding a driver for that. But then they think nothing of calling and messaging a driver during their break.

Go figure.

 

When I was on elogs, I routinely got the oil changes and service done Off Duty, many times right during a 10 hour break , under a load too. Now the book says if you break down on the roadside, you must log On Duty til you get back rolling. Now enough time has passed that I can confess this-- yes I logged On Duty a couple times while broke down, even one time while Hazmat placarded (within 10 feet of the roadway no less) and went back later and edited all the On Duty time back to Off Duty.

What will be interesting when the Elog mandate comes out, being so strict that as soon as the wheels turn the elog records Driving and puts a driving in violation just for slow rolling over the shop for new tires or oil change or something.

 

I've said it before, the US laws are written for criminals by criminals to PROTECT criminals. Look for the grey areas. See Mr Lepton's wonderful post.

As Mr Lepton is bringing out, there is a huge disparity between the DOT regs and the stupidity of the mega carrier SafetyMan.

 

Can you imagine checking into the shop for an oil change and they say, we have 3 truck ahead of you but 2 of them are waiting 6 more hours for their 10 hour breaks to finish then we will get you in.

 

Not always. I've had them take my log book and tell me to bring the rest when I come inside. All weigh stations aren't built the same and don't operate the same.