Pre trip / post trip ?

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  1. White_Knuckle_Newbie

    White_Knuckle_Newbie Light Load Member

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    It's your paycheck, do as you wish.
     
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  3. KB3MMX

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    If you are a O/O with one truck you are exempt from the post trip requirement.

    It's often referred to as the owner operator exemption.

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    I really hope you fined the flat tire enough to pay for the repair.
     
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  5. MOGLAR

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    Fed Regs state that a post trip must be done. HOWEVER....there is no reg regarding a pre trip!! I invite you to find it. In any event I do a pre trip anyway and show it in the logs. I always give the truck and load a once over before heading out :)

    Although the pre-trip is not required by regulation to be documented, it is a good idea to document the inspection;;););););)

    I recommend that the pre-trip inspection be “flagged” on the driver’s record of duty status in the “Grid” section. Now let’s take a look at the post trip inspection. The FMCSA CFR 396.11 requires that every driver report, and prepare a report in writing at the completion of each day’s work on each vehicle operated and that report (DVIR) shall cover the following parts and accessories: (a) Service brakes including trailer brake connections. (b) Parking (hand) brake (c) Steering Mechanism (d) Lighting devices and reflectors (e) Tires (f) Horn (g) Windshield Wipers (h) Rear vision mirrors (i) Coupling devices (j) Wheels and rims (k) Emergency equipment. The report shall identify the vehicle and list any defect or deficiency in the vehicle that would affect the safe operation of the vehicle or cause a mechanical breakdown. If there are no defects or deficiencies the driver shall so indicate on the DVIR. In all instances the driver is required to sign the DVIR upon completion.
     
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  7. KB3MMX

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    (5) Exceptions. The rules in this section shall not apply to a private motor carrier of passengers (nonbusiness), a driveaway-towaway operation, or any motor carrier operating only ONE commercial motor vehicle.

    ^^^^^^^ This is what is referred to as the owner operator exemption.....




    (2) Report content. (i) The report must identify the vehicle and list any defect or deficiency discovered by or reported to the driver which would affect the safety of operation of the vehicle or result in its mechanical breakdown.
    If a driver operates more than one vehicle during the day, a report must be prepared for each vehicle operated. The driver of a passenger-carrying CMV subject to this regulation must prepare and submit a report even if no defect or deficiency is discovered by or reported to the driver; ******the drivers of all other commercial motor vehicles are NOT required to prepare or submit a report if NO defect or deficiency is discovered by or reported to the driver. *****
    (ii) The driver must sign the report. On two-driver operations, only one driver needs to sign the driver vehicle inspection report, provided both drivers agree as to the defects or deficiencies identified.


    ^^^^ Straight from FMCSA......it also helps I'm fresh on this crap after just going through a FMCSA Audit.
     
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  8. cnsper

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    Actually you do NOT have to fill out a DVIR if no defects are found. Here is the link and the copy of the order.
    https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/newsroom/...7-billion-annual-paperwork-burden-us-trucking
     
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  9. Bdog

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    I read about that. I am an O/O but have four trucks. The tractor trailer, a dump truck, and a couple pickups with DOT numbers so I don't think that would apply to me even though I have no other CDL drivers.
     
  10. cnsper

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    Nope, that exemption only applies if you have one truck and one trailer. If you have one truck and multiple trailers then you still need to fill out the DVIR. You would have to fill them out in your case but only if defects are discovered.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification.

    Is the DVIR something that the inspectors look at in an audit only or is it something the DOT checks when they pull you over?

    I do it everyday but my question is when they stop me are they going to want to see the previous day's DVIR?

    Since I have multiple trucks and I am the driver I don't often have recent logs for that vehicle with me.

    For example tomorrow I am headed off in the tractor trailer on a trip but it has been parked over a week and I have been not driving. I have been working in the shop. I have my previous seven days time sheets so I have that covered but if I am to do the the DVIR at the end of each day I would not have a completed one in the truck with me. I will obviously do my pretrip before I go, but do I need a written DVIR in the truck with me if it is my first day driving it in a while? The last one I did is at the office with the logs and such.
     
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