IN,IL 53' spread kingpin laws

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  1. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    I am supposed to take a load to Indianapolis from Texas. My trailer is a 53' spread axle flatbed. I see Indiana has a 43' kingpin to rear axle and Illinois has 45'6" kingpin to rear axle. Pretty sure I am over both these.

    Does this apply to interstates or just state roads? Can you buy a permit to exceed it?

    Never had to deal with this before the states I normally run in have none of this nonsense.
     
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  3. dwalto

    dwalto Light Load Member

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    I ran a 53 spread all over Indiana and Illinois. Was never an issue
     
  4. w.h.o

    w.h.o Road Train Member

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    There's a lot of 48' spreads out there crossing indy and illinois.
     
  5. Bdog

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    48' is no problem. The law says if your trailer is over 48' the kingpin to rear axle center can't be over 43'. Mine is. Wondering if a permit can cover this or if I need to turn down the load or what.
     
  6. PackRatTDI

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    I think the Illinois and Indiana rules are for state routes and even then I've never heard of them actually enforcing the restrictions.
     
  7. PackRatTDI

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    Honestly the only states I've ever heard someone getting hassled about that besides the obvious. California, have been Florida, Tennessee and Connecticut.
     
  8. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    I see 53' dry vans rolling past the house all of the time with the tandems slid all of the way to the rear. Chances are, you won't have any issues because you'd have to be noticed by a cop who is familiar with that particular law. I'd venture a guess that cops are a lot like truckers in that MOST of them are clueless, except for what they've specifically been told to do over the years. The difference is, if the cop is oblivious, it doesn't affect his job, reputation, or pocket...he just doesn't enforce laws he doesn't know are on the books. If the trucker is oblivious, he gets a big fat fine and possibly loses his job.

    That being said, I've heard the fine is pretty stiff IF you are caught here in Illinois. But, as I pointed out, I see it all of the time and nobody seems to ever get caught...and that's with obvious issues with the bridge. On a 53' flat with a spread, chances are they will be less likely to notice than they are with the 53' vans that get away with it all of the time...especially if you've got overhang in the rear.
     
  9. snowwy

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    Do they make 53 spreads with permanent axles that cant be closed? To deal with kingpin states.
     
  10. Bdog

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    Mine is fixed. It is an older trailer though a 1996 Fontaine.
     
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