The way CSA works is if there were a contact collision, and one of the vehicles was towed, no matter who was at fault, the truck driver carries the CSA points
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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by BostonTanker, Jun 7, 2016.
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It is very common for our insurance to ask if a potential hire has copies of any accident reports to prove fault...they allow only one 'at fault' accident in the past three years...so I ask anyone who shows any accidents if they have the police report. I send them along to the insurance broker.
This often saves them having to go to the insurance company for a determination if said applicant meets their requirements. -
get an original copy for the PD where the accident happened. make up a very brief letter of what happened. make copies of those, and many times apps ask to provide copies, so you should be good to go.
Weenie should be able to cooperate, with you, but beware, they may also know from your inquiry, that you are getting ready to jump ship.
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Thanks. Looking at small companies anyways.
Already have one job when I get off the road this month if I want it. Another waste fry oil company. Same money as previous fry oil recycler. Straight trucks. Small family owned company 15 minutes from my house. Been in business 40 yrs -
As I said in the post just before this one. The FMCSA MCMIS system and how violations are reported is not understood by a lot of drivers. Also like the term Federal DOT certification the term DOT reportable accident is a misnomer. When what is called a DOT reportable accident happens the FMCSA rules state in 390.15(b) that the carriers must keep all the paperwork for 3 years. There is no report made to the FMCSA and the records be made available. However if there is an accident and an inspection form is issued by a certified officer then the driver will be held responsible for any violation noted. Now this leads to one of the problems with the FMCSA MCMIS system and that is these inspection reports gets filed before the criminal or civil cases get adjudicated. A driver can be give points for something they were actually found not guilty for in court. This has happened and it is a pain in the butt for the driver too. There is no mechanism in place in MCSAP to remove the points either. Your post as written is not accurate. Yes it is possible but not a standard practice.Last edited: Jun 8, 2016
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All I know is that in 2010 a car running next to me on the interstate swiped into my fuel tank and spun off into the median. He had to be towed and the officer said I was zero% at fault. But I had to carry the crash on my PSP for 5 years.
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Sometimes I make a post on a complicated subject and while I had a clear intent to add something I sometimes forget it. Here is what I left out. A carrier is required to add any accidents that falls into what is called a DOT reportable accident into their Accident Register. Next point based on that last reply is the FMCSA takes all points off by the 3 year mark.
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Yes they do take the points off at the 3 year mark but continue reporting it against the driver's PSP report for the full 5 years.
Congress had sharp questions for the DOT boss when a driver's truck was struck by a falling bridge and the driver had to carry the crash on his PSP report for 5 years. -
You explain it just like you did here and tell them you can provide further documentation if they want it. Sounds like it was not a terribly serious accident and did not involve any serious lack of judgement on your part, so I wouldn't be up worrying about it all night. List anything and everything that has a paper trail on a new hire application though. This bit me in the rear and cost me a job one time, and that is not a fun time attempting to explain *that* to the next company you sit down and talk to. Just be up front about everything and that will never happen to you. Luckily the job I lost wasn't one to cry over anyway and was probably a blessing in disguise in retrospect, but it was still a tough lesson and thoroughly unpleasant.BostonTanker Thanks this.
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Driving at current company for 4 months knocked over a guard rail in parking lot no truck damage how does this affect my driving record ?
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