Gross rate for all miles

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Zwiser, Nov 15, 2018.

  1. Zwiser

    Zwiser Bobtail Member

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    Yeah i have my own tags, 2290, workers comp.

    Yes i get a fuel discount its only $0.21 though.

    They pay for IFTA
     
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  3. Midwest Trucker

    Midwest Trucker Road Train Member

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    I don’t think it’s too bad. My company pays 1.70/mi for all hub but it’s dry or reefer, not FB.

    If you think about it your company is providing a lot.

    Liabaility insurance
    Cargo insurance
    Trailer costs
    Plates
    IFTA
    ELD
    Tolls
    Scale Pass
    Washouts
    Scale costs
    Assuming it’s weekly pay while they wait
    Dispatch
    Plus I’m sure more I’m not thinking of.

    Just saying keep the full picture in mind. A lot of guys only think about loaded pay and not the full all miles pay. As long as your getting pretty good miles atleast 2000+ per week then your not doing bad. There is always a better deal out there but there will be it’s own unique set of downsides.
     
  4. 77fib77

    77fib77 Road Train Member

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    So your netting like 1.22 a mile after fuel. Assuming your around 45 cents a mile on fuel. It's a little low. 2900 a week after 2400 miles it's low. But it's easy and your putting miles on your truck. I sit at tank washes after I unload to wait to get cleaned. I'm closer to 1.5 a mile after fuel and company deductions, but I have more dead time.
     
  5. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Glad to see you have your numbers, that allows for a factual discussion.

    For me,

    2015 - $1.69
    2016 - $1.90
    2017 - $2.10
    2018 - $2.80 (so far).

    This is leased to a carrier, with my own trailer. Flat, and extendable flat.

    The 2017 and 2018 numbers showed improvement with the specialized trailer, over the standard flat.

    I’ve focused on the numbers closely in the 4 years, as I find it encouraging to see improvement or decline on a monthly basis, and consider the strategies employed in a short time frame, rather than leaving it till year end.

    I think you have ample room for improvement, where do you personally see those opportunities?
     
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  6. Zwiser

    Zwiser Bobtail Member

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    Opportunities?? Hmmm well the company i pull trailers for hauls alot of lightweight freight typically 10k-15k pounds and rarely into the 20k range on all the outbound freight.

    So what ive done so far is established a “hotshot” truck and bought two trailers for hauling freight on the out bound. The hotshot is doing well but the added expenses of hotels, paying w2 driver, and truck payment. The truck (2017 F450) does get decent fuel mileage pulling trailer 8-9mpg on ifta.

    The hotshot grosses $1.53 a mile so far in 6 months all miles. They have trouble finding good return loads... the owner of the carrier is very optimistic about my hotshot work out of their customer.
     
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  7. AVL

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    How many miles have you ran in each of these years, if you don’t mind me asking
     
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  8. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    Sure - these are within 5k of exact figures.

    2015 - 110k
    2016 - 80k
    2017 - 85k
    2018 - 67k to date.
     
  9. Bakerman

    Bakerman Road Train Member

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    2014 vs 2015
    Miles 61,799-57736
    Gross $ $175,997-$159,910
    Fuel $30,229, 8130gallons, $3.73avg-$18,142, 7584gallons, $2.39avg
    Trip to LA 68-59
    Plates & Ins. $8,500-$9,000
    Maint $11,090-$10,373
    Travel Exp. $6,900-$7,600
    My Salary $52,000-$52,0000
    Net $67,278-$62,796
    Gross/mile $2.85-$2.77
    Net/mile $1.09-$1.09
    Cost to run $1.62-$1.68
     
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  10. Bakerman

    Bakerman Road Train Member

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    2016 vs 2017
    Miles 61,799-57736
    Gross $ $175,997-$159,910
    Fuel $30,229, 8130gallons, $3.73avg-$18,142, 7584gallons, $2.39avg
    Trip to LA 68-59
    Plates & Ins. $8,500-$9,000
    Maint $11,090-$10,373
    Travel Exp. $6,900-$7,600
    My Salary $52,000-$52,0000
    Net $67,278-$62,796
    Gross/mile $2.85-$2.77
    Net/mile $1.09-$1.09
    Cost to run $1.62-$1.68
     
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  11. GreenPete359

    GreenPete359 Road Train Member

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    When i first bought my truck i was doing $2.25 per mile on 2,100 miles per week. Carrier reimbursed plates & 2290, reffer trailers at no cost, all frieght was out & back, weekends off. Head hauls were light: 10k or less, back hauls were 42,000 ( but only had 2 per week). I paid bob tail insurance, truck payment, fuel, tolls, maintenance, taxes, & myself.
     
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