So FMCSA requires drug/alcohol testing after the driver has been involved in an accident. There also seems to be a distinction between accident vs incident.
Accident= Accident when driver was at the wheel???
Incident= Accident when driver was not at the wheel???
Accident vs Incident (in Relation with Drug/Alcohol Testing)?
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by PE_T, Dec 22, 2018.
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How do they test for alcohol and what can the test results show if you haven’t had a drink in say, 2 weeks or more?
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By FMCSA, the motor carrier needs to drug/alcohol test the driver right after the accident.
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As best I understand it, an accident is anything that the police make an accident report for. Generally vehicle vs. vehicle, or a driver damaging their own vehicle on a roadway, or in a way that causes a hazard to other people.
An incident is any accident AND when a driver damages something but there is no other vehicle involved. Damaging a sign on private property. Trenching a yard in a residential area when you cut a turn too tight. Damaging dock equipment by pulling out when the light is red. That sort of thing.
Incidents can sometimes happen with no damage to anything. Blow through a 4-way stop and some 4-wheeler video's you doing it, and sends it to your safety department? That's probably an incident, even if it never gets reported to the cops.PE_T Thanks this. -
Oh, after an accident. I guess I should have read the entire title. I thought is was about when joining a new company.
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Look guys, 382.303 Post-accident testing is the section that you need to read.
If you are in an accident and get a ticket, and if someone is hurt, meaning goes to the hospital OR if one or more vehicles are disabled and need to be towed you get a drug and alcohol test.
An incident is what is generally defined by the carrier.Dino soar, brian991219, Farmerbob1 and 2 others Thank this. -
Correct, and the Reg you mentioned uses the definition of accident in 390.5. I don’t recall the Regs ever mentioning an incident so I would agree that an incident is whatever the carrier says it is outside the scope of the definition of accident by the Regs.Farmerbob1 and PE_T Thank this.
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Basically, if anyone leaves in a wrecker, ambulance, or body bag... your getting tested. And remember, DOT has 8 hours to test you even once your free to go dont drink when you get parked.
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Some companies will require their drivers to be tested, even if the regs don't require it. Myself, if I had ever been involved in an accident, I would want to be tested. I wouldn't want there to be any doubt about my sobriety.
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