Post office dock workers are the ULTIMATE slackers. I've been to a lot of places in my 35 years, but the post office is even worse than the union grocery houses,,and that's pretty bad.
Postal Haulers... who are the good employers?
Discussion in 'LTL and Local Delivery Trucking Forum' started by speedyk, Jan 26, 2019.
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Dealing with the Dock Workers would be the hardest part for Me. Seen enough of their crap the few times I’ve done Postal Loads.Local bear Me always has a Job advertised 6 hrs a day 6 days a week. $23 hr + $5 hr mandatory retirement pay in savings account. I’d rather do my 40+ hrs in 3 days. Lol.Sounds great at first, though. It must really be awful, as they’re always Looking for 1 Driver specifically for that Job.
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Thank you, I should have been clearer about what I'm asking. I'm already doing it and the rates are set by USPS, looking for the better contractors. I like physical activity, and everything moves on wheels, unless you're wheezy-obese it's pretty easy and only takes minutes to load/unload a trailer.
To clarify for anyone else interested, the $5.xx/hr Health and Welfare is on top of pay for the first 40 hours so after 40 you make less per hour. Some companies require that to be paid into a special account for its intended purpose, some will add it to regular pay if you ask.
I've talked to drivers from a few companies, suggest that anyone interested do likewise, just like you would if you were hiring at a local LTL or food service barn. It's easier if you're already on a PDC loading dock.foggy, Mike2633 and Rideandrepair Thank this. -
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Job listings are easy to find, go to your local CL/Jobs/Transport and put mail in the search. Or use SearchTempest to search whole regions at once. On Indeed they have listings under mail hauler.
Much like FxG, the individual contractors are different, have different runs and equipment.
There are locations and shifts with miserable people. I've seen this before; the golden seniority handcuffs are chafing and the work is unending and repetitive and becomes torture. One troubled location has a poster about Depression on the wall next to the urinals. :^)
The good thing is I don't have to talk, just load or unload and go. I don't even need a pen, they print out a BOL to put in the sealed trailer and one for my pocket, about the size of a dollar bill. If they make me late with a delay, they make out a late slip to hand in at the other end.
Another positive is that it makes a great conversation starter with other mail drivers, we all know which places are miserable and have a laugh about them. There are good and funny people working docks as well.
It reminds me of my city messenger days. I'd come into an office out of the bright sunshine and find unhappy people in a dimly lit office who looked down on me, but minutes later I was back out in the sun and they were stuck in there, self-imprisoned by needing to get ahead and keep up payments on stuff that didn't make them happy anyway. :^)
The reason that 6-day job isn't filled is because overtime pays less. That company needs to find a weekend driver and bid the seventh day or something else. Lots of part-timers in this racket, some would love two days.
There is more mail volume than ever. If a contractor is doing less they got underbid. There is so much package volume that I often can't fit the regular mail cages in my trailer after loading the package pallets, and then Amazon shows up while I'm unloading to add even more pallets of packages to the crowded dock. That also probably contributes to employee unhappiness, from their side it must look like an unending avalanche.
It also means that there's always work. Even in 2008 the runs kept going as usual, from what I've heard.
I haven't seen any Veltri trucks yet, noticed Hoovestol somewhere else in my travels, I think it was Utah, seemed like nice tractors, Volvo sleepers IIRC. It's a hard name to forget.
@blairandgretchen I agree with your sentiment, I used to have a gig that took 3-4 months out of the year. I'm adapting to 5 easy days and continuing to look for a still more relaxed schedule.foggy, Fratsit, mathematrucker and 4 others Thank this. -
Well stated.Mike2633 Thanks this.
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I hauled mail part-time for several different HCR outfits over the past 10 years. Now get this, it was the exact same route over all that time, but I ended up working for 4 different outfits. The first went out of business at the drop of a hat one day and vanished into thin air leaving alot of guys without pay. Another company rook over the route and hired all the drivers. This lasted about 4 years and then they got underbid. So I hired on to that company. These guys were so bad that the USPS ended up yanking the contract after a year and gave it back to the other company. But this company was completely different from the 1st go around because they got bought out in the meantime.
Then the USPS is constantly screwing around with the routes: adding stops, removing stops, consolidating runs, etc.
I made good money over those years, but just got fed up with the BS. My advice: hire-on to the USPS or just go get an LTL job or something. -
Saw a new thread about mail haulers so I thought I would throw my 2 cents in. Started hauling mail in 2005 with MCA now Pat Salmon. Started with Eagle Express in 2007 and still here. Current payrate out of Indy is $25.10 plus $5.11 for health bennies. Varies slightly depending on location and contract.
Eagle merged with Hoovestol and recently acquired Beam Bros out of VA and now stands as the largest mail hauling company in the country. Trucks and trailers are now much newer then they were when I started.
Other mail hauling companies off the top of my head, McCormick, Veltri, Sodrel, B&B, etc etc, I think there's probably 100 companies
Some runs actually have the driver roll the carts off the trailer but the majority I have seen the postal employees do it. (At their own pace of course)
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I'm doing my own rolling, don't mind, it's easy. But could stand to make more. USPS needs to update the wage scales.
Lots of Eagle in PHX, also Matheson and Beco.mailman59 Thanks this. -
Hoovestal rents yard space in Omaha from a former employer of mine and I'd have to move one of they're trucks occasionally .
Those things were ghettos on wheels ...filthy ...stunk !
Wash hands immediately after touching one .
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I watched a driver from a large OTR mail company try to hook last night. They backed up, there's a little ramp they go up so the tractor tail was angled up and still wasn't lifting the trailer. I can see light shining through, at night. They try anyway, pull up, no hook.
But don't get out, oh no, just try backing harder. Now they've submarined and have the pin ahead of the wheel and the van and the cab are inches apart.
But still don't get out, just hit the bag switch. Except it's not enough to clear... bang.
At that point I was called to a dock by my savior, so didn't watch more appalling laziness.
I think some folks get glued to that seat and bodily transfixed, they likely don't care about clean cabs either.
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