Logging Loading/Unloading Time

Yes, DOT is cracking down on drivers not logging all their time at customer as On Duty Not Driving. Back up to dock and jump in Sleeper is no longer allowed.

 

It would only be a crackdown if the officer was enforcing the laws and not making up stuff. Since I have yet to have anyone actually find where it says one must log on duty at a dock....

Also think of this. Why is everyone I've ever heard of a CVSA violation and no citation (written warning is what most call it)? Could it be they know it will never survive a court battle as there is not law against it?

And let's be clear. I'm not talking the driver lumping or tossing straps or actually working. I'm talking about when the driver is released from all tasks related to the truck.

 

Splitting hairs? You will never find verbiage in the book saying log all time On Duty while at a dock. You will find that is reads something along the lines of 'all time at the customer' (actual regs are already posted above in this thread by Zvar himself btw).

 

The only definition that mentions customer, also has the condition of waiting for dispatch. Try again, this time read the link I provided.

 

So technically were on duty in the sleeper on our ten hour break because we are on standby for our alarm clocks? Lol

 

Yes. Was told by an inspector that all dock time needs to be logged on duty not driving.

 

CSA needs revised big time. I'm fine with the system, just not the DataQ. #### is a joke

 

If you are at the facility and sitting/waiting you are off duty.
If you drive van or reefer, your load time on duty is how long it takes you to pull out from the dock, close and secure your doors, and get your paper work and depart the facility. Your elog will automatically switch you to driving within a couple of minutes.
If you drive flatbed or RGN, the minimum you can show is 1/2 hour. You have to account for securing your load, paper work, etc...
The best practice by far is to simply log what you do, and do what you log, With Elogs your time is more accurate, so if it took you 10 minutes or 30 minutes just log what you do.

 

Logging what you do doesn't always work. That's what we've been saying here. When you get a falsification for logging a nap in sleeper berth, something just isn't quite right.

 

Sure. So you get to the customer and switch to line 4. There's a delay and your 8 hour clock runs out while you there. Now you're loaded but you can't leave until you take a 30 minute break. But you can't take a 30 minute break and must remain on line 4 because you're at the customer.

How does that one end?