Off duty vs sleeper berth

Off duty means away from the truck, you are not even in it.

You wont sleep in a day cab that's stupid.

Falsifying the system to make it think you are off duty somehow is cheating, if you are feeling like you have to cheat its not good.

Off duty is that, off duty, away from truck at home or in hotel or with family etc. You dont even see the truck at that time.

 

You can be off duty in a truck, read the reply above yours. He’s not cheating anything by logging off duty in a daycab.

 

was sleeping in a 6 wheeler in a WV rest area on I-79, back in the 80's. next morning was woken up by the DOT man. he asked if I had spent the night , said no just a nap.

my log book shows 3 days out from NC as off duty and that night as sleeper.
he asked for motel recipes. had some, but not for that night.
was informed that sleeping on a bench seat is not sleeper berth.

no ticket ,but a learning experience.

 

I drive daycab. If I ran out of hours on the road I just can’t do 10 hour reset in daycab. Gotta go to hotel.

 

During the 70's; Chem Leaman & Matlack trucks all came with one seat and most guys had a'box' from the just right of the gearshift to the door. The box held a foam to cover the top along with a pillow and blanket or sleeping bag.

In 1979, my fleet operator [leased to CLTL] paid $15.00 per layover. We had a few steady runs to Janesville, WI and around the Chicago area so they needed 3 layovers to make the trip. Most guys slept 'across the box' for the first and third layover, choosing to take a hotel, just after the delivery in order to shower, etc. and used the rest of the $45.00 for meals.

Never had anyone told then that they couldn't do this. This was all highly corrosive liquids so they became 'ripe' wearing the PVC suit at the delivery so that one shower was really needed...

Retiring guys often sold their box to a new guy. They usually had the CB mounted on the side making a nice package.

 

The Sleeper Berth is defined in the green book as having certain parameters in size. A driver could not technically log Sleeper unless the area they are resting in was that size or larger. Side note, this is the "in" any DOT inspector has to get inside your truck any time they want without a warrant. All they have to do is say they are measuring your sleeper to ensure it is in compliance with the green book just the same as they measure your brakes or tire tread depth or any other inspectable item on your commercial vehicle.

Are you in Europe? Here in the U.S. we changed the regulations in 2012 to allow daycabbers and hotshotters the ability to log Off Duty inside their commercial vehicle so long as it was "parked". So these drivers are saving a ton of money by sleeping across their bench seat.

 

So this question came up at my work and every safety guy in the company says that you can now take a 10 hour break, off-duty, sleeping in the front seat of a day cab tractor. I disagreed with everyone, but I would like to know for certain. Anyone on here tried it and got an inspection since the new rule in 2012?

 

The Scream. Is there anyone that doesn't like that painting?

 

Here's one of my favorites and I have a copy in my living room.
Ophelia

Artist John Everett Millais
Year 1851–52
Medium Oil on canvas
Dimensions 76.2 cm × 111.8 cm (30.0 in × 44.0 in)
Location Tate Britain, London

 

I have this one too, in my collection.
The Young Martyr


The Young Martyr is an oil painting by the French painter Paul Delaroche. It was completed in 1855 and is based on the Romantic style of genre painting. The Young Martyr represents both Delaroche's emphasis on historical accuracy and flair for drama and emotionality in painting as The Young Martyr depicts the historical martyrdom of a Christian, while, at the same time, an otherworldly halo, emanating above the Martyr's forehead, emphasizes the painting's dramatic, emotional effect.

• Date completed: 1855
• Artist: Paul Delaroche