Breaking down a load.

I Love It.......9 times out of 10 im Assuming they will unload it. Probably wont get allowed back..But who cares. Great Job man....Need more guys like you out there to say Enuffs enuff

 

Hmm... seems that you do care when called out on your professionalism or lack there of

You made asinine statements then called out for challenges. I explained why you and far too many other drivers are WRONG.. now you are all butthurt... get over it sweet pea.

You'd only come away more disappointed and looking more foolish... so just sit there and don't get your white gloves and pretty pink hands dirty. wouldn't want you to mess up your manni

I'm not the one who's coming off with the BBR super trucker attitude there whoopie.... You are..

 

Depending on what your company has set up for you to do... then if the load gets refused, its YOUR COMPANIES fault and they are not going to be very happy with you and of course the contract/agreement you signed with you company probably states that you are to do what they say when they say to do it.. up to and including unloading freight.

Sort of.. they could refuse the load because the carrier refused to fulfill their contract with the shipper.. which effects the shipper and the carrier and could lose the carrier the business with said company.

Not really.. I think most drivers who got out and moved around and used their brains and communicated with more people, their lives and overall attitudes and health would be better.

$25 bucks an hour instead of ZERO dollars an hour waiting for the truck to be unloaded doesn't enter the realm of fair. Either way with the 14 hour clock, you maximize your labor and pay instead of getting paid nothing.

Go ahead and cut your own throat.. there are plenty other outfits that want more business.. you're only harming yourself. I cannot believe that people would rather sit on their sorry arses with the clock ticking than getting out and making real money. In the old HOS it made sense to let the drivers pretend that they were off duty to save their time to drive, with the 14 hour clock it makes more sense to get the labor and the pay for the drivers instead of them not doing anything and STILL not being able to drive.

 

Fozzy, I most certainly see your view.

the point I was making is..THE PRINCIPLE of the matter.

the applies to a driver. many Carriers dont tell their hirees that they will be made to unload at certain warehouses virtually bfree of charge.

Now...if these carriers paid the Driver what they pay Lumpers...Im all in it. but they DO NOT.And we both know that.

Quit making it sound like the Suns shining all over truckj drivers at Grocery houses..its NOT

Exercise,Health and Well-being is a choice a person makes in life..Not a MUST at a grocery house for peanuts.

Besides...Doesn't it make more sense to let a driver sleep/rest? I mean cmon........


i tell ya.............if I came to terms with a shipper that unloading was extra..It would Reflct in the Rate...They Dont like it, Like you say Fozzy, Others are waiting in line.

 

Your right about the exercise its not a must but I don't get why sit in the truck if your able to lump a load? Don't we get enough rest already? 10 hour break isn't enough? More than likely after you've lumped a load you are gonna go pickup a load that same day so you can rest then? I agree with you about the companies not paying the driver what they would pay a lumper service I think that's BS.... Where I work they give us $10 per pallet... I think that's pretty fair... SOmetimes they don't all have to be broken down it can just mean using a pallet jack to pull them off of the trailer...

 

All Carriers that I every worked for always have the caveat in their hiring paperwork that at some point and in some instances, the driver is required to unload the freight. I have never seen a company that guaranteed that the driver would NEVER touch a load. That is normally a grand assumption and again, that was when the drivers could save their hours simply by logging off duty and then be stuck there and no matter how long it took, hop in the truck and continue driving even if the driver got no rest at all.

The gripe about it not being fair that a driver not get paid what the lumpers get paid is also just not dealing in the real world. You are contracting with someone else to do work that your employee can and or could do. When that happens, its a cost that can be written off, labor for your employees (the driver) cannot be or thats the way it was explained to me "once upon a time". If your driver has a lightbulb burned out and refuses to replace it and the company has to call out a road service to replace the lightbulb.. what do you think the costs on that would be against a driver replacing the light bulb?

I've been in a lot of food warehouses and I know that the sun doesn't shine at most of them.. it doesn't shine in the sleeper or the parking lot either. And we come back to the pay.. even if the driver is a shlub and unloads slower than molasses, the driver is still getting paid more than if he or she does nothing but sit in the truck (with it idling away $4 diesel) bemoaning the fact that he or she is lonesome.

And sleeping and resting is fine... working and moving is better than resting and sleeping the vast majority of time..

 

Too much going on to jump into this fray--and Ive been at this a VERY LONG TIME--and ALL REEFER and mostly all LTL--
What I can tell you is that today--MANY companies are not only promising their drivers NO TOUCH LOADS--They are REFUSING to allow drivers to do anymore than open the doors--under any circumstances--and it has nothing to do w/recruiting--or anything other than $$$$$$
Workmans Comp rates are out of control---and the larger companies can no longer afford an underwriter let alone a policy--unless they guarantee drivers WILL NOT unload---Ive actually been to places that still---pull the pallets off for you--and help sort segregate---where these types of receivers have now made deals w/carriers to HAVE outside help available--weird I know but it is a growing trend--Not how i could do biz--but--and mind you Im not talkin bout grocery whse etc--where they already have labor source(lumpers)of some sort---Watched a mega driver--sit in the parking lot of a VERY GOOD receiver in Dallas area--waiting on a temp service their company contracts with--to send someone over just to throw mt pallets down--because load was on slip sheets and driver was only required to drop a pallet on dock to save time for f/lift driver
Strange times we are living in

 

The 10 hour break is way too long for me, and the straw that drove me from driving to teaching. I've slept 5 hours per night for decades, period. When I awaken, I'm instantly wide awake. After another 5 hours of waiting, I was too tired to drive 10 or 11, and the new HOS prevented the 1-2 hour nap I would need to remain fully alert ~1 or 2 in the afternoon, so I had to get out.

 

You can split the break and take your 2 hour nap, then take the 8 in the sleeper later.

 

i hear alot of valid points and some old set in there way drivers. It all comes down to your mentality of how you look at it. Some companies pay almost nothing for us to break a load and some treat you great and have your back and if something is just to much to handle they will pay a lumper to help. I have done that where i am at. I have seen a driver not feeling well he called in said hey i can get the load there but breaking it will be too much and they hired a lumper for him. Its all in how you personally view the industry and the amount of work to be done. Me? Hell it would take alot of money for me to go strap and tarp a #### load in the rain and snow give me a 3000 case load on a dock 1st.