CALLING ALL OWNER OPERATORS!!!!

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by CDL CPL, Jul 13, 2018.

  1. Tb0n3

    Tb0n3 Road Train Member

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    OP, if you didn't cheat and now have to do things differently then what changed? If you weren't cheating then there shouldn't be any changes in your operation.
     
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    been using electronic/digital logs for about 10 years.
    Nothing has changed. Not the device thats the problem.
    HOS flexability is.
     
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    Complaining about the ELD mandate because it took away your "flexibility", in regards to HOS is a losing argument.

    No matter what the reason, or how minor you believe the infraction to be, you are admitting to falsification of RODS.

    Now all that falsificationing (look there I made a Bushism), is why the ATA and FMCSA where able to get the ELD mandate put into effect. And as one who is just as guilty as the next driver of coloring creatively inside the lines, we have to admit that if we want anyone to listen to us. You don't win friends by lying to people, especially about the obvious.

    Now if we can do that, then you have a shot at changing the HOS.

    Now, I'm against ELOGs being mandatory, but my reasons are different.
     
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    Don't worry, you nanny staters will have the whole industry to yourselves soon enough; your precious government will eventually prove to you what they really care about; and it won't be any citizens "best interest" including yours.
     
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    You can go look at serval companys dot records from 3 years back I bet you will see speeding tickets
     
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    4 or 5 year ago I got a 14 mph over ticket. I was on paper at that time. So saying we never speed before elogs is a load of crap.
     
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    I run an ELD and don’t support a roll back or special exemptions for the reasons I said previously. I don’t support ELDs or love ELDs. The ELD mandate is a business regulation changing the way HOS is recorded and enforced, end of story. Just like any other industry, you adapt to changing regulations and carry on doing business. The problem is the topic of ELDs has become an emotional topic for too many people and don’t view from a business perspective. There is still plenty of money, opportunity, and freight for anyone that can let it go and just do your job.
     
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    ELD is just technology moving forward. You recorded your time on paper now program/device does it for you. HOS didn’t change so I don’t see what’s the problem with ELD device. We could use flexibility on the hours , 14hr rule is stupid and need to be changed.
     
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    I am sure that most, including myself, who are saying that they are against ELDs, they mean that they are against current HOS and they have always been but before ELD mandate deadline, the fix was all too easy, not even requiring any #####ing and moaning. They just phrase it this way. I would be impressed, if there was anyone saying that they are good with HOS but not good with ELDs.
    It is possible though, for example, for completely averse to electronics people or those who bought ELD that malfunction all the time or even those defending their Constitutional rights seeing this as their private property encroachment.
    Most of the time, when there is any talk about ELD exemptions, it should rather be rephrased as HOS exemptions. The live stock haulers, in most cases, don't have any problems with mounting ELDs on their trucks. Why do they need exemption? They can't do their job under current HOS, so they need to be exempt from it.

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    I do want to be exempt from HOS too. If there is any HOS comment period, I'll find good arguments...For starters, let's go back to pre 2004 rules; retain 34 hour reset... or rid of 70 hrs/8 days rule. I'd be all right with that. Let's exempt anyone with 2 million miles/10 years of experience and with no at fault accidents from any HOS at all...The most crucial road safety rule is still retained - No driving allowed while fatigued...and drivers with that much experience should know their limits.
     
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    My biggest concern was cost. Now that I've gotten the system implemented, it costs me a whole $100.00/year more than paper logs did, so I'd rather keep the ELD. My only concern with the ELD now is the fact that I have to rely on and trust the hardware, software, and a network for my compliance. There isn't much outside of my control to go wrong with a sheet of paper except spilling something on it.
     
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