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Carbon Monoxide

Discussion in 'USA Truck' started by DGStrong71, Aug 10, 2013.

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  1. Aug 10, 2013 #1
    DGStrong71

    DGStrong71 Road Train Member

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    Do any of you USA drivers have CO detectors/alarms in your trucks? I have noticed that the exhaust pipes on the APU's dont really extend sufficiently past the side wall of the sleeper so that the prevailing air currents can take it away easily, especially when parked next to another truck. Im planning to check with the shop about some type of Gen-turi pipe or something. This is a real concern, especiaily for those of you that dont have APU's and must idle your truck when there is always potential exhaust leaks. Anyway, it's just something for you all to think about. I wouldnt want to here about any of you waking up dead.
     
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  3. Aug 10, 2013 #2
    MNdriver

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    I bought both a smoke and a CO2 detector for my truck.

    It's under $25 for both.
     
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  4. Aug 10, 2013 #3
    RunFlat

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    Yeah I have one. Reads 0 everytime so this is good!

    shoulda seen this in the usa truck thread I aint no usa driver! sorry!
     
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  5. Aug 10, 2013 #4
    dutchieinquebec

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    I wouldnt want to here about any of you waking up dead.

    ehhhh waking up dead !!!!!!
     
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  7. Aug 10, 2013 #5
    MNdriver

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    some mornings I feel like a zombie.....

    Think I'll go take a half hour break....
     
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  8. Aug 10, 2013 #6
    bryanrutledge

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    now that's funny
     
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  9. Aug 10, 2013 #7
    J_FROG

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    The cabs and sleepers are designed not to allow carbon monoxide in. However, if someone has removed some of the rubber grommets or drilled holes into the bottom of the cab without resealing it, then it can be a problem. Also if the windows or vents are open and the wind is blowing in the right direction.
    I've had a detector in the past and its always checked zero. You can by one at any home improvement store for less than $20.

    Also, the typical diesel engine give off less than 10% of the cm that a gas engine does..

    http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=371552

    I hope this helps.
     
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  10. Aug 10, 2013 #8
    bubbavirus

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    OK
    Sit down, been there, hell my mom died (suicide) by CO.

    I had a bus that had those Regenerator lights on the dash,

    had a dash cam that I turned on when the son of a gun was smoking up the hood.

    I told mgmt to give me a new bus or I was going to the ER after work.

    Well ER did $7k worth of tests and found squat,

    YOU COULD SMELL IT UP YOUR NOSE FOR TWO DAYS...

    Luckily the bills got paid...

    oh yeah the ER found no , nada, damage to me the driver.
     
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  11. Aug 10, 2013 #9
    25(2)+2

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    The ones sold in a home improvement store made by Kidde and others, aren't going to detect minimal amounts that could still cause injury. A real time recording device can show actual dosage over time, the electronic ones mentioned won't do that. I have one, but never found anything with it, either. The other thing is the industrial detector set up to read instantaneously, but you are talking hundreds for one of those. Those going into confined spaces would never rely on the homeowner ones. Another device is a chemical color change patch that is still sold for airplane cabins, a fast change means a high level and a slow change means a low exposure but still being exposed

    The smalll engines used on APUs probably produce more CO per volume but less volume. I've seen some of them smoke pretty badly when being started and before they warm up. Fuel leaks volatilizing and blowby are worse potential problems than exhaust except possibly on well worn engines that smoke more when idling form my experience since driving older trucks early in my driving career.

    Blowby and fuel leaks are more likely on older engines.

    I have only had a problem with older trucks and leaking exhaust piping getting into the truck and anything under the hood leaking tends to get drawn around the hood and into the inlet for the HVAC, and there are some trucks that could draw air through worn drains and get exhaust into the sleeper that way, again, older trucks are the culprits .

    Pac brake bushings tend to get exhaust into the passenger compartment, too. You can usually smell exhaust in the cab driving down the road if the bushings are leaking.
     
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  12. Aug 10, 2013 #10
    snowwy

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    does diesel exhaust emit carbon monoxide?????


    Chemical components

    This is a list of chemical components that have been found in diesel exhaust.
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TH]Contaminant[/TH]
    [TH]Note[/TH]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]acetaldehyde[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 2B carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]acrolein[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 3 carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]aniline[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 3 carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]antimony compounds[/TD]
    [TD]Toxicity similar to arsenic poisoning[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]arsenic[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 1 Carcinogens, endocrine disruptor[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]benzene[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 1 Carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]beryllium compounds[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 1 Carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]biphenyl[/TD]
    [TD]It has mild toxicity.[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]bis(2-ethylhexyl)phthalate[/TD]
    [TD]endocrine disruptor[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]1,3-butadiene[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 2A carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]cadmium[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 1 Carcinogens, endocrine disruptor[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]chlorine[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]chlorobenzene[/TD]
    [TD]It has "low to moderate" toxicity.[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]chromium compounds[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 3 carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]cobalt compounds[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]cresol isomers[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]cyanide compounds[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]dibutyl phthalate[/TD]
    [TD]endocrine disruptor[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]1,8-dinitropyrene[/TD]
    [TD]Carcinogen[SUP][citation needed][/SUP][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]dioxins and dibenzofurans[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]ethyl benzene[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]formaldehyde[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 1 Carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]inorganic lead[/TD]
    [TD]endocrine disruptor[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]manganese compounds[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]mercury compounds[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 3 carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]methanol[/TD]
    [TD]It may cause blindness.[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]methyl ethyl ketone[/TD]
    [TD]It may cause birth defects.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]naphthalene[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 2B carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]nickel[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 2B carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]3-Nitrobenzanthrone[/TD]
    [TD]One of the strongest carcinogens known[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]4-nitrobiphenyl[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]phenol[/TD]
    [TD]endocrine disruptor[SUP][citation needed][/SUP][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]phosphorus[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]polycyclic organic matter, including polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs)[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]propionaldehyde[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]selenium compounds[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 3 carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]styrene[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 2B carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]toluene[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 3 carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]xylene isomers and mixtures: o-xylenes, m-xylenes, p-xylenes[/TD]
    [TD]IARC Group 3 carcinogens[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
    [SUP][12][/SUP]
     
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