Editable ELD

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  1. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    Today a few dock doors down, a tow truck was hooking up to a TT to take it to the truck stop 8 miles away. The driver was emptied out but ran out of legal time to move. Company does not allow parking after empty so he was forced to leave. His company hired the tow truck to take him down tothe TS about $500 bucks. Guess they figure it is worth it over a log violation.
     
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  3. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    More like the driver is being an idiot and will be looking for a job soon. You can drive over your hours if not loaded. No law says you can't. You can not deliberately progress towards your next load but off duty, unladen driving is absolutely allowed for food or rest. A couple times a month i have to drive home 'over hours'.
     
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  4. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Been using paper logs for 15 years. I'll lose more in the first week using your figures than I've spent in fines for log violations, etc. during that time.

    There are no "savings"...only costs. Costs for the device. Costs for the subscription. Costs in productivity.
     
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  5. mhyn

    mhyn Road Train Member

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    and when you drive home where on log book you mark ? off duty area or driving area?
     
  6. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Off duty. With a notation of how many miles, and why i had to drive.
     
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  7. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    To be fair, some systems and subscriptions ate ridiculously cheap. And if your productivity suffers as a result of elogs, you were obviously violating hos.
     
  8. fargonaz

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    Smells like teen spirit to me.
     
  9. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    ...And that would pretty much defeat the entire purpose of this legislation.
     
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  10. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I would be grateful if you could provide the sacrament of confirmation on this one.

    Look at this....

    http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...hreads/paperless-logs.11176/page-2#post-75146

    In light of your words here, would not one doing as you describe potentially leave themselves open to a civil lawsuit?
     
  11. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Im no lawyer so i can't say yes or no on that. However, i am leased to mercer, a rather good sized company with assets worth protecting. If me driving off duty opened them up to civil lawsuits i don't believe they would allow it.

    I don't have the regulation in front of me, so no sacrament of confirmation. I'm just accepting the word of our safety director, who is very well respected in the industry. Heck even Firestone requires all drivers no matter what carrier they are with, to view a video of him explaining how to properly secure plastic pipe, before they will let you on there years to load. The name of the town that plant is at is escaping me at the moment but it's just off 85 in sc near the ta north of greenville.

    It falls under the personal conveyance area. I had a conversation about it with him when he made us old guys get our elog installed. It was one of my concerns, cause while it doesn't happen every day, but it does happen. you get held up at a job site and you watch the last 4 hours of your 14 tick away trying to get unloaded. So what are you supposed to do? After all you can't park on the side of the street in downtown miami. Heck sometimes I'm unloading on the side of the street while the police route traffic around us.

    Does the safety guys word make it law? Of course not, but any decent sized company has been in a lawsuit enough times to know how to protect themselves from the big ones. And like most carriers, the write to the fmcsa for clarification of how to interpret some of the regs.

    Anyway, in a nut shell, he told me that when this happens, to go off duty and drive to a safe place to take my ten hour break. Use it when i need to cause they don't want us sleeping on the side of the street in bad sections of town, but don't take advantage of it. Make a notation of why, something simple like 'drove to safe place for rest' and note the mileage so when i log back in the next day and it flags me as the truck having moved x miles they know why.
     
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