First Time Owner/Op Needs Purchase Advice!!

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BandBSowards28, Feb 27, 2018.

  1. BandBSowards28

    BandBSowards28 Bobtail Member

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    Hey all. As the title says I’m a first time owner operator looking to purchase my first truck. I can’t afford to purchase and spec a new truck off the line so unfortunately have to purchase used. Gotta’ start somewhere, right?

    Today I test drove a 2014 Pete 386 with a 455HP Paccar MX in it, 3.25 ratio and 240” WB. Lifetime 7.1 mpg on the truck. Over all I was pretty satisfied with the truck until we entered the local interstate and I accelerated up to 70 mph, which is the speed limit. I noticed as I got into the 60-ish mph range the truck began vibrating a bit the way on old car does when it goes fast. Should this be a major concern of mine? I know it could be something as simple as a tire wearing uneven or the tires being unbalanced etc. The alignment was a little off as it pulled right, which they’re going to fix if I decide to buy it. Could it be something more expensive like the drive train? Front shocks or an issue with the breaks?

    Buying used I know is always a risk and I fully expect the truck to have issues here and there. Just didn’t expect the vibration on the test drive and I can’t shake it from my mind as it has me worried about buying it. Truck has 433,000 miles on it and previously hauled precut lumber and steel loads via flatbed all highway. Also has 5 months/67,000 miles left on the initial Paccar warranty. I’m planning to haul strictly 53’ dryvan ranging mostly 26,000 - 37,000 lb.

    Sorry so long winded. Any veteran advice is GREATLY appreciated! Thank you!
     
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  3. pmdriver

    pmdriver Road Train Member

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    First concern is that engine, just look at all the threads on them, then those trucks are sold off near that mileage because they get to expensive to maintain.
     
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  4. Steel Dragon

    Steel Dragon Road Train Member

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    How did the tires look?
    Unbalanced tires usually have the vibration at a certain speed and it goes away.
    My truck has 550 k and sometimes has a slight vibration when first rolling in the morning..once the tires heat up..no more vibration.
    Air pressure is correct.
    :dontknow:
     
  5. BandBSowards28

    BandBSowards28 Bobtail Member

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    Tires looked good to me. Honestly I didn’t check them all as far as air pressure but none are re-treads and all have a good amount of tread left. It didn’t vibrate at all when we first left the yard and rolled smoothly at 45 mph. Wasn’t until I got into the Interstate that I noticed the vibration.
     
  6. Steel Dragon

    Steel Dragon Road Train Member

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    Suspension problems would be evident on all roads and at all speeds.
    Every truck is a crap shoot at 400-500k.
     
  7. BandBSowards28

    BandBSowards28 Bobtail Member

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    I agree with you there. Impossible to look inside the engine as well and see anything that might be going arry. I don’t really have a choice though. Like I said I can’t afford something new. I’ve driven for a couple of guys who bought used similar to the one I’m looking at when it comes to truck mileage etc. Their trucks had issues here and there but stayed on the road quite a bit and were run pretty hard as well. I’m just trying to do the best I can with what I’m able to afford and then I have to cross my fingers and take the risk. I’m just wondering what might be causing the vibration other than a tire issue and if I should be worried about it, ya know?

    With regards to what’s been written about these engines, I’ve seen about 50/50 good and bad. I have noticed though that most of the bad was in the earlier models (2010/2011/2012). Not that they’re flawless but I think Paccar has cleaned up most of all the ridiculous sensor issues everyone kept having early on. One of the trucks I recently ran for a guy was a 2012 Kenworth T660 with a 400 HP Paccar MX. He bought it with over 600,000 miles on it and it now has over 800,000 and he’s never had to have the engine worked on at all. He’s taken it in for minor things here and there but so far no major engine trouble.
     
  8. BandBSowards28

    BandBSowards28 Bobtail Member

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    Since it didn’t vibrate until the Interstate at a higher speed, what in your experience do you think that could possibly narrow it down to? I agree that trucks with this mileage are a crap shoot. I’m trying to do the best research I can and then take the risk and keep my fingers crossed that the truck doesn’t nickel and dime me to death.
     
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  9. blairandgretchen

    blairandgretchen Road Train Member

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    No offense - but I'd run like HE double hockey sticks from it.

    Not nickel and dime - you mentioned van freight too - it'll dollar and Jackson you to death.
     
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  10. BandBSowards28

    BandBSowards28 Bobtail Member

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    You may be right! Haha. But I’m kinda’ at a lack of options. Any suggestions? What would you do/look at for a first time used truck? Please don’t say “I wouldn’t buy used” . Pretend you are forced to buy a used truck with similar miles. What would you be looking for? Would this be a minor concern to you if the rest of the truck didn’t initially concern you? The fleet that used it before kept it regularly maintained and cleaned. Doesn’t mean it won’t crap out, but definitely gives it a better chance to run well longer than a truck that wasn’t maintained well. It also has 5 more months of warranty, so anything major right out the door would be covered.
     
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  11. HopeOverMope

    HopeOverMope Road Train Member

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    It almost boils down to experience and preference. Keep doing your research on here, and don’t be so quick to buy. Weigh out the pros and cons of motor, brand, driveline etc

    Some will tell you Cats are junk and others have made a living for decades w/ Cat motors. Same thing for Cummins and Detroit’s. I’ve even heard some success stories on here over pre emission Volvo motors.

    Really investigate emission regulations on big trucks and what that means for the truck your purchasing. 2003, 2007, 2011 etc are cut off dates for the next epa requirements.

    Do you need an emissions truck, do you do CA? Or live there?

    One things for sure, I’d never buy another emissions truck with approx 500k miles. Many major components make their lifespan right around that time. The soot from egr drastically shortens the lifespan of motor internalls... so maybe you see where I’m going with this?
     
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