Leasing on an owner operator

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Dino soar, Feb 9, 2023.

  1. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I'm thinking of leasing on an owner operator to run with my trailer. He will run loadboard Freight. I may or may not initially factor some of the loads.

    I am curious how to charge as far as percentage and monthly fee for the trailer. I realize the percentage varies because of how much office work is being done, but I'm trying to get a handle on about what that percentage is and then the best way to figure that with insurance expense or whatever else.

    I'm also curious of anyone's thoughts positive or negative who have done this.
     
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  3. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    It has to be good enough to put your MC number at risk and raising insurance for you if something bad happens. Have you got a quote on how much insurance is gonna cost adding him on? I would guess add that in and figure out what you think would be a reasonable profit for risk. Seems 15-30 percent is normal in the market. If they are good hard runners maybe on the lighter side and if not maybe more on the heavy side. Got to cover your cost and make something.
     
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  4. wichris

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    % would be on how much cost you are going to cover. Plates, insurance, ect. How fast you're going to pay. Fuel card. List goes on.

    If they're going to run spot freight in the same area as you, you better collaborate on each load or one or the other will be cutting the others rates down.
     
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  5. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    My understanding of this is that either you figure his insurance in and charge a larger percentage, or you figure a smaller percentage like 10% and then he directly pays for the insurance and whatever other fees there are.
     
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  6. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    That I am not sure of. I guess I'm trying to get an idea of what the range of that would be depending how much I would do. Fuel card is a good point I hadn't thought of that.

    That also is a very good point.

    In this instance though there would be no competition for freight.

    I don't know if it makes any difference but I don't have a particular person in mind. I'm looking at how this works and the problems and issues associated with it and whether or not it's worthwhile doing or how at least I can cut off as many of the problems associated with it as I can.

    I'm also trying to get more of a complete picture of what all is involved and how much work it will actually be for me.
     
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  7. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Who is going to go over the broker contracts and rate cons? They have a right to see the rate con and invoice but just letting someone else setup with a new broker can get costly. Remember, doesn't matter if/when you get paid, the truck still has to be paid regardless.
     
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    When I hauled cattle I gave my friend 15% for trailer and authority. I was getting my own loads and he wasn’t dispatching me at all. I got paid every two weeks from him, his wife handled IFTA, trip envelopes, etc. He covered all mechanical expenses on the trailer, I paid for washes and wash outs. I paid for the plate on the truck.

    When I stopped pulling his trailer but was doing other stuff using his authority I gave him 3%. I kept track of my trip envelopes and turned in my state miles so his wife didn’t have to figure mine.

    Now where I’m leased on I give up 20% but don’t have to do a thing other than decide where I want to go and get there without messing up.
     
  10. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    My thought would be that they could negotiate with whatever broker, but I have to authorize it and actually sign the rate con itself, making sure that it's a broker that has an acceptable credit rating.

    If there are Brokers we are not set up with I would have to be the one setting that up also. They can tell me they want to work through a certain broker or there's a load that they want, and I can take care of the packets and all of that.

    Somehow I would like there to be an email chain that I'm always a part of, and I think there are certain things that need to be done when they deal with a broker as far as being under my authority. Nothing excessive just mostly about communication, no rude language, etc and making sure things run smoothly.
     
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  11. NYStarcar

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    It sounds like you would be better off just renting your trailer out on a monthly basis.
     
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