PULP - Bagged Spinach ???

Discussion in 'Refrigerated Trucking Forum' started by sonnyca, Apr 17, 2025.

  1. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Then the height of the load didn't interfere with air flow. If it did the RA would be higher. Just give the download to insurance and fight the claim.
     
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  3. MRMTRANS

    MRMTRANS Medium Load Member

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    I tell brokers before the contact is signed certain terms, or I don't want the load: product has to be cooled (exception is potatoes because they keep in sheds, but write the temp on bills); detention that I charge; lumper fees are paid/ reimbursed by broker; and no pallet exchange (don't see that anymore anyhow). This all, except for hot oroduct, has to be written on the rate contract. If the product is hot, I most likely won't load it. And be prepared to drive away.
     
  4. Folk Fries

    Folk Fries Light Load Member

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    I've never tried that. What's your success rate for brokers you've never worked with before accepting those terms?
     
  5. OlegMel

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    Your insurance company will tell Costco and broker to kick rocks if you have a readout and it’s within range. You need to email your insurance company that you decline any liability since your reefer was in a perfect working order throughout the trip….insurance companies don’t play BS claim games.
    Friends refrigerated box truck burned down that had a load of pharmaceuticals in it. The load was delivered by a tow company day after the incident , receiver tried making a multi million $$$ claim and claim got rejected because internal temp of pharmaceuticals was within range since they were inside a temp controlled container filled by dry ice…
     
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  6. aussiejosh

    aussiejosh Road Train Member

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    The issue in a lot of these cases is the product is very rarely temp checked when loaded, whatever temperate it was when loaded that'll pretty much be what it'll stay at regardless of what temp you set your reefer at. The solution we used to do this all the time is take the product back to our yard where we had cold storage unload it off the truck leave it for a good 24 hours let it really cool down then re-load it. Receiver does another temp check all fine product accepted. Most recievers if their doing a proper job will test the product temp not the box temp, as the reefer would naturally cool down the boxes or pallets but not the actual product, if you've got a receiver that is not to bright, you might get away with it if they just do a box temp.
     
  7. MRMTRANS

    MRMTRANS Medium Load Member

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    My success rate with my approach might not be a good indicator for others because I mostly haul potatoes-being out of CO- when I am not on my regular run of pharmaceuticals. And backhauls are most often dry. However, I have found that with just about all loads, lumpers aren't coming out of my pay. I might have to pay them, but I get reimbursed. The same with pallet exchange: it's is non-existent anymore from my experience. And detention...well I always have it in the contract, but the terms can vary. When it starts, and how much $/ hour varies. It normally between 2-4 hours, and $25-$50/hour. The big thing is having it the contract, and getting a revised rate agreement reflecting detention to send with the invoice and Proof of Delivery. As far as pulping...I politely ask during negotiation if the product is pre-cooled, because, otherwise, I won't allow it to be loaded on my trailer. I pulp loads with a laser temp gauge when I can't stick it. I have even taken pictures of the temp reading, particularly when I have to wait in the truck during loading, and of course write the temp on the bills. The main reason I refuse to load out of temperature product is because it puts the compressor under a max load the entire trip. I once had cooling problems with a hot load of bell peppers coming from Laredo>CO, where the unit was shutting down, and I'd have to wait a couple of minutes for it to cool then restart. Once the outside temperature came down, it ran fine. And the customer received it. I refuse to haul out of temperature loads since that one.
     
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  8. Buckeyes614

    Buckeyes614 Light Load Member

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    Hauled fresh cabbage straight out of the fields in NC headed to Atlanta, the evaporator inside kept freezing up and shutting down, another reason why I stay away from produce.
     
  9. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    Cabbage hot is real wet…best if you have vent doors on both rear door and can run unit continuously on low speed…but probably still not gonna get more than bout 25degree drop between the tarheel and hot lanta
     
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