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Discussion in 'USA Truck' started by chemsoldier1, Mar 10, 2013.

  1. chemsoldier1

    chemsoldier1 Medium Load Member

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    One other thing I'd like to say about the loads we get asked to pick up from yards and terminals and deliver nearby. Think about this folks. Those loads that we ##### about taking 1-20 miles away from the yard and sitting on.....those are loads they let somebody drop so that they could swap loads to go home or just outright go home. They don't end at a terminal. The carrier still has an obligation to deliver that freight to the customer. Now also think about this. How many times has your FM let you drop a load to go home? Or drop it so you didn't have to sit on it for an extra day? You don't stop to think who will be the one to get stuck with delivering it do you? Of course not. I don't either when I get to drop something. But what goes around comes around right? When you have to pick up a short haul, just remember that somebody got to go home for whatever reason they needed to go home. Before you gripe, remember, somebody will pick up your load when you need to go home.
     
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  3. RetiredSarge

    RetiredSarge Medium Load Member


    Well put!!! No one will ever think that far ahead. They would much rather blame USA or their FM or that someone is trying to screw them over. They should also think far enough ahead that if they take those loads out of a drop yard and don't complain, their FM and they will have much more bargaining power when it needs to be done or their convenience.
     
  4. beeznduck

    beeznduck Bobtail Member

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    lol after screaming at your fm and he tells you to drop that is good, so what about looking into the future, if the fm had paid attention to the driver and gotten him home when he asked you would not have this problem. I have gone off on my fm many times, at one point I told him when I ask for home time it is not a request it is a demand!!! don't take any bull@@@@ from these fm's. Like I said I left usa because of all the broken promises, I now drive for a company that respects their drivers, I am not a number I am a person and they know BY NAME all their drivers!!! So you newbies it is ok to gripe, that is the only way usa fm's will listen!!!!
     
  5. USIT420

    USIT420 Light Load Member

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    If what you just described was usually the case, then that would be fine. I get to drop and go home then take a short haul out of the yard upon returning to work. RARELY is that the case. Usually its 2 short hauls per week and if you're out for three weeks...nah that's not a fair share of short haul. What's usually the case is trainers/OOPs dropping...well because they're above sitting in dock doors. And then you have the other type of short haul...I pick up from customer A and deliver to customer B 13 miles away. And they will still try any argument to avoid paying local pay. You want to call yourself a long haul outfit AND dabble in short haul, fine...BUT PAY YOUR DRIVER! I don't care what I'm hauling or where it's going to, but I do expect to make money on it, and $4 for 4 hours of my time is not reasonable. You want to play local driver and yard jockey for your customers, fine, pay me for it. This company is backsliding again, just a few months ago they put out a press release that they were reducing their short haul freight to retain drivers, in the last month I saw a significant increase. Everything in this business is about money...don't believe me? Just ask Mr Cliff how many $4 loads he's pulled. Want to retain drivers?....look at the reasons they leave. Will almost always be about money/home time.
     
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  6. J_FROG

    J_FROG Road Train Member

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    Hmm
    Let's see, you are a student according to your profile, yet you are already on your second company? Almost sounds like you are dinkytruckerdoo come back from EPES to relive the good times he had here. He talked the same way, yep I'm known by my name here.
    Well anybody that complained as much would be known by name at any company. Usually with their name written on a pink slip is a good indication its time to run to another company.
    Come on back to USA when your done there. We are always hiring students..lol
     
  7. briank

    briank Bobtail Member

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    i would settle for some detention pay, some effort to compensate me for my time. a 6 hr live load yesterday. a six hr live unload today(and counting). an 8 hr wait a couple weeks ago, manager said he would "put me in" for detention pay, which I never received. over the past year I have waited 11, 13 and 23 hours loading or unloading; countless 5 and 6 hour waits. and got nothing! kickbacks or not, they clearly dont care to keep drivers around much.
     
  8. J_FROG

    J_FROG Road Train Member

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    Unfortunately detention pay comes only after 6hours, provided you were ontime and run less than 2200 miles that week. If that's the case find out why not. Ask your travel agent for the written copy of the D2 pays. It explains it all. If he acts stupid then suggest he either ask another TA or his boss. BTW travel agent, Fm, dm are all the same person. Call them what you want.
     
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  9. chemsoldier1

    chemsoldier1 Medium Load Member

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    In 2 years I've NEVER picked up and delivered from a shipper to a consignee in less than 50 miles. I have had some less than 100 when something was going from say Texarkana, TX to Little Rock, AR. In fact, I've never picked up and delivered within the same state on anything but a multistop and from one end of Texas to the other lol!

    Not to say this has NEVER happened for anybody but it just seems like either I almost never get the trash loads or you always get them. In fact, with you living in Charlotte, I don't understand why you aren't on a lot more high mileage loads. I've taken tires from Goodyear in Fayetteville to Dekalb, IL, Tonawanda, NY, and even as far out as Topeka, KS. I've picked up stuff in Mt. Airy and Raleigh/Durham that went all the way to Colorado. I just don't get it. You say you stay out 3 weeks....perhaps you are on a regional fleet? Or you've asked to run regional? Its not like you are in a bad freight area for us.
     
  10. chemsoldier1

    chemsoldier1 Medium Load Member

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    The only department here that has ever had a habit of disrespecting me is Breakdown, and thats only because they seem determined to find ways to prove that I caused every issue with the trailer or tractor each time. I've never had to bark at anybody at this company except in my very first 2 months and it was only because I was tired of living in hotels for a truck that spent more time in the shop than on the road. In deferance to you, yes that FM did suck. He really did little for the drivers. But in the end he was fired and its been uphill since then. Am I getting rich? No. Does anybody bend over backwards to kiss my rear? No. I am provided with satisfactory equipment, I'm compensated fairly for the work that I put in, my home time requests are honored, and I set my workload depending upon my motivation level.

    I'm sorry that you had a bad experience here. They really should put a disclaimer out like they do for the "magic bullet" weight loss pills and investment advice. Something like "Drivers CAN earn up to $35K in first year. Drivers can go home every 2 weeks plus have opportunity for more if they live in high volume freight areas. Individual results may vary." All kidding aside though, one thing I like to remind the new hires when I meet them (especially the disgruntled ones), is to remember their place upon the totem pole. I think my resilience may be different than most drawing upon 9 years in the Army but I must stand firm in my belief that USA Truck is no different than any other employer. The amount of attitude that some of the new drivers exhibit, or sense of entitlement, is astonishing. I suppose that many of the people that use words like "disrespect" would probably tell the manager at Burger King on their first day of the job that they had no intentions of working nights, weekends, or cleaning toilets at minimum wage.

    I use Burger King not to demean BK, as I love it, but in comparison to USA Truck or any other training company. Nobody enters the restaurant or hospitality industry with no prior training or experience and starts out at a 5 star place or even as a manager at a lower echelon diner. We all have to start somewhere. Does it mean that USA Truck is a bad company? No. Not at all. Just like the fast food chains, you can stick around long enough to move up into better pay, better equipment, better benefits, or more leverage. Or you can take your 1 year experience and try your luck elsewhere. I'm glad that you have found greener grass on the other side of the fence. Maybe you've found your niche? Or maybe the warm glow from a new place just hasn't worn off yet?
     
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  11. USIT420

    USIT420 Light Load Member

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    You must not get to Carlisle, PA or the Indianapolis yard much. They have a food mfg in Carlisle that they pick up regularly and take 11 miles away to a grocery house. In Indianapolis at the yard...there's always paper loads there that came in on a train, the local driver gets them at the rail yard, drops at the yard, and then you (or me, or whoever) takes it 70 miles to Terre Haute for a 3-4 hour live unload, first come first serve. Me living in Charlotte has no effect on loads...since I'm not a local driver. You should know that USA will avoid ever sending you close to home, that would be too easy to leave the company. We don't get to choose the loads
     
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