Perishable Haul Temperatures

Discussion in 'Refrigerated Trucking Forum' started by CondoCruiser, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    There's always the question of what temperature do I haul at. The more experience you get in the reefer business, the better general knowledge you'll gain on hauling temperatures. Then there's always a new product that you'll come across???

    The shipper will dictate the haul temperature. If it's not on the bills, ask before you leave. Your company will probably tell you across Qualcomm or PeopleNet. If it's through a broker, he will probably tell you or have knowledge of it.

    I have run into a disagreement of the minds before. Then what? Well the receiver is the one that accepts and rejects the product. You can't go wrong by delivering by what they want. You need directions in. So call and ask both.


    Produce is a lot more sensitive than frozen products. They usually have a smaller temp range to haul at. So you need to keep the reefer on continuous to keep the temp range close with the airflow moving across the product.

    Frozen product you can get away with cycle. Even with temperature recorders I have got away with cycle. If you ever look at the graph chart it is hardly noticeable unless you have an antique reefer unit.

    Sometimes you'll get product you have to chill down like freshly slaughtered meat. That case constant airflow will help chill it quicker. Once you reach temp, you can go to cycle on meat.


    Other things to keep in mind is how the product is loaded. Does the pallets need separation and kept off the outside walls?

    How does the outside temperature and sun affect my load? With produce I'll compensate for extreme weather conditions. Do they tell you and want it at 60 across the hot desert sun? Drop down 2 degrees to 58. As night fall approaches set the temp back to 60. It will pulp out perfect.

    The same with winter but the opposite. Do they want it at 60 but it's 10 degrees outside. Set it at 62 degrees. If you run north and south the weather might change drastically. Adjust that 2 degree threshold according as the outside temperatures change.

    Pulp as you're told. At minimum, pulp on the shippers dock to see what temp they are giving you and at the receiver what temp you are delivering at. In between is to keep the company and you happy. Remember that's a controlled environment back there. Keep them doors shut as much as possible.

    Remember the shipper is the one that pays. Listen to them first. But there will be them weird loads and if it's a weekend you might not be able to get a hold of anyone.

    Instead of posting temperatures, here is a USDA web page with most of the temperatures are on it. I see a couple minor discrepancies but it is good info. Haul temperatures are at the end.


    http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/getfile?dDocName=STELDEV3021003



    Another tidbit: Produce has a high water content. If you are running long haul you can lose up to 800 lbs due to evaporation. Good to know if you are running heavy.




    It's 2am and I'm writing this cross-eyed! :) Feel free to add to it!
     
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  3. RAGE 18

    RAGE 18 Road Train Member

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    That is really good info. sounda complicated I guess its like anything new it takes time for one to get to know the trade.
     
  4. Cinnamon0333

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    Thanks for the link! It is great to see in writing what the loads should be hauled at.
     
  5. VisionLogistics

    VisionLogistics Road Train Member

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    Yes, that is a great guide at the link you posted. Nice reference for mixed loads, and very helpful in general. I'm surprised this thread hasn't had more traction, so BUMP!
     
  6. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    The same weight loss goes with hauling nursery stock. Which is generally seriously HEAVY, but in transit you lose a ton of water.
     
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  7. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    Very useful info . as must read for anyone hauling a reefer
     
  8. 58Skylane

    58Skylane Medium Load Member

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    Great info! I'm not a reefer operator, yet. I plan to start this fall if everything lines up right.

    Maybe a dumb question here. If the product is in a sealed well insulated trailer. Where does the water (evaporation) from the product go? 800 pounds of evaporation is about 114 gallons. That's a lot of water. Makes sense that the product will dry out over time, but mind boggling to where all that water goes to. If the trailer have some kind of a vent to the atmosphere, then I understand.
     
  9. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    We haul a fair amount of not completely cooled meat and poultry, some of it in large bulk containers,

    My company started setting it at 25 instead of 28 on cycle sentry when it got hot.

    I have found that it won't get cold enough to cycle very soon, it might take 8 hours or more, depending on how cool the product was at starting. The unit will still start up often even after starting to cycle.

    In the winter, the pallets of temperature sensitive produce, like bananas, should be stacked away from the walls of the trailer, and the shipper will usually supply plugs for the drains, the doors should fit well and the seals should be at least effective, and preferably undamaged. Everything had better be right or the shipper generally won't load the trailer.

    I have been told to run the unit on continuous by a broker, and allowed to run it cycle by the shipper, sometimes, it takes awhile to change that setting.

    Even among just TK units, there is quite a difference in how to operate them.
     
  10. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    There are drain hoses at the back and front of the trailer. Of you look at the back of the trailer on the inside, you'll see two holes in the floor. Those are for draining. There are also two at the front of the trailer.
     
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  11. 58Skylane

    58Skylane Medium Load Member

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    I see. See, after almost 30 years of truckin (non-reefer), I thought I had it almost half figured out. That's why I like this forum. Learn something new everyday. Thanks!
     
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