“The brokers make too much”

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Long FLD, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. Driver Eight

    Driver Eight Light Load Member

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    May or may not be feasible now. Someday technology will possibly make it more convenient. I certainly get that brokers provide this service, and I get that shippers would recover the cost they were paying for that service, but not to the extent of the brokers profit over the value of the service. And we are still just debating about regulating exactly how much a broker should make
     
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  3. ZVar

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    Let me ask you this. What regulation in trucking makes you unable to solicit shippers directly? As I'm guessing that's what you are trying to compare it to.
    That's right, there is no regulation. It's all contracts.

    To answer your question. Yes it would be legal to make such a contract, and it's very likely it's even enforceable if there is a reason for it like using the field for free and limited to a year or something... Again we are talking regulations though, not contracts.
     
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  4. LoneRanger

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    @Long FLD first you say it’s not feasible for shippers to keep track of 100 trucks then you say if shippers find out how cheap they can run trucks they will really screw us over.

    Logic states if they can’t run 100 trucks then they can’t screw us.

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    if they can run 100 trucks then then rates will be bad still.

    If they can run 100 trucks then that would mean brokers are really useless.
     
  5. ZVar

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    And yet literately 1,000's of years of written, documented history of economics disagrees with you. I think I'll go with all that knowledge.
    No need to cap my pay (because if we cap brokers, why not cap the company, which means even company drivers will start hitting pay caps.)
     
  6. Driver Eight

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    Somehow we got sidetracked into the concept of considering what a brokerless world would look like. I’ll take your opinion on that. I think we should get back on track in considering exactly how much a broker should make at the expense of the trucker. Because brokers appear only to be dinging the trucker side, not the shipper side to maintain their profit margin .
     
  7. Long FLD

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    If every shipper had a traffic department they would quickly find out how cheap their product could move. No matter who is passing the loads out the number of available trucks, in theory, wouldn’t change. If anything, the shipper would knock the rates down in order to try and keep more of their money to cover the increased overhead is having people to deal with truckers.
     
  8. ZVar

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    Easy answer. They make $0 at the expense of the trucker.
    If all brokers were gone tomorrow, rates would not go up . Period. Remember that 1,000's of years of history? That's my source.
     
  9. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Why should YOU get to decide what the broker makes? If they're taking a loss on a load would you haul it cheaper or tell them it's their own fault they didn't quote more?
     
  10. LoneRanger

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    Soccer field can not and will not place a clause in its rental agreement for a one time use, which prevents you from renting another location in the near future next time, unless some sort of provisions where given to the leaser, such as discounts up front for options to host future events with the organization, and this still depends on other clauses and stipulations, Reasonable clauses are good

    but

    The everyday person who wants to rent the field for a party or an event or something that’s not on a regular basis will not have such clauses in the contracts preventing them from using another field next time.
     
  11. Rubber duck kw

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    The shipper is not the brokers competitor but their customer.
    Do you think all non compete clauses across all industries should be illegal then?
     
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