This might get interesting?

I don't deny the broker's ability to make money.

They have a service that is needed.

I just think that it should be transparent. Some will agree some will not agree.

The fact that it's not transparent is one of the main factors in them making money.

If it did not matter to them if the rate was transparent they would not go to such lengths for you to not know.

And yes I am trying to figure out what method is the least expensive to move a truck.

I am not trying to figure out how to find a Carrier and pay him pennies to move a truck.

 

I guess the day we run 18 wheelers on no fuel expense or human expense running freight at .50 a mile. (Battery only or Robot or both)

 

If you called a broker about a load and they asked your MC, then about your trucks fuel mileage, your household size, home value and adjusted gross income, And years in trucking, ya know... For transparency... Would you tell them? No, because you know exactly what theyre fishing for.. The guy with the lowest expenses and experience so they can pitch him the lowest offer. theyd profile targets for advantage.

How would you feel if they lobbied the government to make you tell them?


This rising up against the brokers isnt about fairness or transparency or justice. Its about a bunch of people who shoulda stayed employees, who instead bought trucks on credit and in a last ditch effort to not be washed out, are recruiting big brother's help to gain an advantage over their opponent and stay in the ring.

 

Really? Lets see, carrier has a claim that is more than the load pay. Insurance doesn't cover it. And that happens a lot. Lots of things that a brokers contingent cargo doesn't cover. Does the carrier step up and pay? No, they just walk away. The shipper wants the money, they owe the broker for other loads so they just take it. You don't think this happens often? Tell you it does on the reefer side quite often.

Don't come in with the old "if you paid more it wouldn't happen" saying. Many years in this and there is no correlation between amount paid and claims.

I understand that everyone on this forum are perfect drivers/carriers that never do anything wrong. But out there in the real world that isn't so.

 

OK the broker is offering a load...$1000 is on the board.

You find out he has $5000 in it.

What changes?

You either take the load for $1000, try to get a better rate, or pass on it.

How does knowing he has $5000 in it change anything?

If he tells you $1100 is the best he can do, what are you going to do?

 

Really has nothing to do with the brokers, it's people taking cheap loads. Brokers pay what people are willing to accept, just like stores sell stuff for a price people are willing to pay. People set the prices.

What do some expect a broker to do? Say "no you can't have this load unless you let me pay you more"?

 

Why does the driver need to know what broker got on a load? I think that's horrible business. It changes nothing. It is still survival of the fittest. I dont hear anybody going to Walmart and asking for transparency about products they purchase. When's the last time any of you asked a manager how much Walmart paid to get that bottle of Armor All? They set the price and people buy it without a thought. If it costs too much you leave it on the shelf. Either you adjust your business model to the current climate, or you go out of business

 

Wait you mean the same free market that requires subsidizing oil companies who make billions of dollars in profits every year? We don't have a free market so long as every big business who fails gets bailed out..

 

It was sarcasm. I despise what brokers do.

 

I know very close to what they paid for the #### thing.

Fayetteville HQ has a floor that does nothing but stick vendors into meeting rooms and hold them there until they yell and argue a lowest price per item multiplied by tens or hundreds of thousands to be produced.

You buy on wholesale as a merchant and you sell at retail with a markup for your profit on the difference minus property taxes on your inventory remaining at the end of the year. Everyone knows 10.00 a can of beer is too #### much when you can get a case of 24 for 30. But it is what it is.