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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by newguy, Dec 8, 2006.

  1. newguy

    newguy Bobtail Member

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    I have a friend that drove truck he was a owner/operator. I went to get a cdl permit and I was going to learn to drive with him .in my state I needed to have my dot card in order to obtain my permit so I went and had my physical and drug test done naturally I had to pay out of pocket.I'm a big guy 6'2 275lbs. when I took my drug test I failed I haven't smoke in 3 months but was a regular smoker for a while now I don't anymore.The mro said because of my size it would take longer to get out of my system.Here's the kicker they have 2 cards they give one is a temp good for 10 days until they get the test results back and the other is the permenant one they give when everything checks out o.k. they gave me the permenant laminated one by mistake.So technically I guess I have my dot card now.My buddy lost his license do to back childsupport and i'm thinking about going to a school to drive I just want to know if I should have to go to the same place for the school's drug test can the medical center tell the school about my test sense I paid for it.I read on other boards that they can't tell the school because I paid for it and that's something they can't share without written permission.any info on this situation would be helpful.btw if I do go to the same clinic do you think it will be supervised.thanks in advance for your replies.
     
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  3. redrocker1055

    redrocker1055 Light Load Member

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    I don't beleave the school will give you a drug teast,unless it is company sponsered... anyways when you do get with a company, your current medical card will be void, do to the fact the company will make you take there own drug test.... And the medical card they gave you by mistake, is not your medical card, and you would be stupid to use it...... And yes if it is the same place THEY ARE REQUERED my law to report it.. another thing i am not certen but i think they also have to report it to the goverment, it may already be on your record, i am not sure tho..... I do know if you are not with a company if they have to report it.. If you were with a company you would never be hired by a company again, because they have to report it,,,, if you have a failed drug test on your dap report, there are very few companys that will hire you,if any.....if i were you i would finf out if it is on your dap already, before you waste the money....the moral of all this is stay clean..........good luck
     
  4. newguy

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    when I applied to the school I told them that I was slightly color blind and they told me that before I sign their contract to go and take my physical so I wouldn't have to pay back the loan if I were to color blind and unable to get a cdl.And why would it be stupid for me to use the card it was their mistake I paid for it and the mro said in his eye's it was no good but he said if I were to use it his hands were tied because I did pay for it and he can't really say to much about it.
     
  5. luvmyhubby

    luvmyhubby Road Train Member

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    REMEMBER THIS IS JMO here but, you have been given the wrong card, so the right thing to do is to turn it in, secondly, you did not pass a drug test so given your drug history and the fact that you are openly considering using a card that was given to you in error, I really would'nt want you to become a driver, how many other things are you going to do that are just WORNG?

    I am not saying this to cause a flame situation but to express JMO, being responsible for a big rig is much more important than saying hey guys you goofed lets fix this paper work............
     
  6. redrocker1055

    redrocker1055 Light Load Member

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    That's what i was trying to get acrossed to him.... his post has bothered me since he wrote it, and i agree fully... and to newguy please do not get mad, but i take my job very serious, and take the safety of other's on road VERY serious, that being said i do not doubt your ability to drive A truck I just think you should wait until you are sure you have kicked the habit. 3 months is not long enough in my opion, It would be irresponsiple of me to alow you to risk the life of anyone, by telling you you should go ahead and get Your cdl, You might not like it, and others might not like it.
    But the simple fact is my family and million's of other's family's travel the road every day.. it will be alot easyer to say good bye to my girlfriend in the moarning nowing you are not on the road... it is ARE RESPONSABILTY AS PRO. DRIVER TO ENSURE THE SAFTY OF THE MOTORING PUBLIC.
    I am sorry i just think you should waite........
     
  7. kc0rey

    kc0rey Medium Load Member

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    I dont care if I hurt your feelings or not...........THC is stored in your fat cells....A person with a low percentage of body fat will store it for around 30 days.......at 275 pounds you have a high percentage of fat cells.....you may carry it for years......

    That being said, with THC in your system, you have no business driving anything much less a big truck.......Test clean and that is a different story....

    Now lets look at your ethics....they suck....you are the type of person who refuses to take responsibility for your actions.
    You should work on being a better person while you're cleaning your act up....a guy like you will probably only stop smoking long enough to get a clean test anyway.

    This industry already has enough druggies and morons in it...........why would any of us want you?
     
  8. newguy

    newguy Bobtail Member

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    easy now grandpa I would feel bad if I set off your pacemaker:smt081besides i've had alot of feed back on this board and only heard of one moron btw you came far from hurting my feelings
     
  9. redrocker1055

    redrocker1055 Light Load Member

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    Thats not funny, You asked are opion.. and we gave it to you. DO NOT INSULT THE MAN FOR DOING HIS JOB...
     
  10. kc0rey

    kc0rey Medium Load Member

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    I'm not as old as you think I am............
     
  11. newguy

    newguy Bobtail Member

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    Idk I see it says you're 73
     
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