Your entitled to spoon feeding based on what ?
The burden is "YOURS" if you choose to contest what is posted.
Ive heard of "Embracing Your Inner Hillbilly"
but your just to much fella.
Out of hours at shipper/receiver
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by johnnyd2u, Oct 10, 2009.
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Finish up at the yard, drive to the nearest parking. Replace that page in the logbook with your loading/unloading time shifted back and trimmed down. Sleep 1 hour. Get up, do some jumping jacks, drink an energy drink and now you are fully rested with an alleged 10 hour break and ready to rock and roll all day in dispatcher land.
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"Brilliant!"
and you wonder why the gov't wants EOBRs on every truck??? -
yup,somebody throws something out there and the Gov't bites on it
Just like you did


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Seems to happen everywhere though. Every time I park at a truckstop a dozen trucks around me are only parked for 6 hours or so at night and away they go again. They park after me and leave before I do and I am rolling at the 10 hour mark. Can't tell me they are all running split sleeper times and running legal. I was in a chicken coop the other day showing my papers at the desk and one of the guys was questioning a driver who was playing dumb with his log but he must've driven 20 straight hours to get to that coop from where he left. I'd say more people cheat on the books than not. How do you compete against that without falling into that pit yourself? I've driven 10.5 hours straight with the cruise set 3mph above the limit for that whole stretch and can't even beat people who supposedly drive at 60mph all day. How does that happen unless they only sleep 3 hours?
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Dont get me wrong, I used to cheat ALL the time, even when I didnt need to! Hell, I could probably teach the class on how to cheat, but my company took away that flexibilty when they started requiring us to match our paper logs to our Qualcomm GPS data. I used to average over 3000 miles a week, didnt feel right if I didnt turn at least 500-600 miles a day. Which I think is pretty good considering I run alot of produce and frozen stuff, we tend to take longer to live load/unload than just drop/hook operations. Now I am lucky to average 2200 miles a week! I have another thread where I detail my experiences running 100% legal.
I dont like the gov't ineterfering in my job, but let's be honest, we brought this on ourselves. By being too willing to bend or break the rules, and hurting or killing people in the process, we set ourselves up to have the gov't hammer us into compliance. Bad part is not all of us need a computer to tell us it's time to go to bed, just a small percentage, but we all get slammed!Rat Fink Thanks this. -
I hear you on that one!!
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But you know what really frosts my cake: it's not just the loss of income that I (and all of the rest of us) will suffer, I cant even take a short nap if I get sleepy in the middle of the day or if I see that I will be driving across the GW bridge at rush hour and If I just took a few hour nap I could avoid that cluster foxtrot. that stupid 14 hr clock just keeps ticking, unless you can stop for 8 hrs (hell if you have that much time, you may as well make it a 10 hr break). I firmly believe that not being able to stop the 14 hr clock contributes to fatigue related accidents and congestion related accidents as well!
Since this 14 hr crap came out, I find myself driving thru traffic that before I would just pull over and wait till rush hour was over AND driving tired more often because I got the mid-afternoon sleepys and couldnt afford the time to take a short nap. So their ingenius solution that the college egg heads and bean counters designed with almost zero input from REAL DRIVERS like us, IMHO, is an abymsal failure! sorry, I'll get off the pulpit now!TruckPreacher, bullhaulerswife, SLCTrucker and 1 other person Thank this. -
TruckerDave, my husband would be up on that box with you. Exactly what he's been saying too. For some drivers, it just screws them to no end.
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I had this situation before. Asked about staying on the lot and was told no.
Oh well then we have a problem I told them as I was OOH due to them taking 7 hrs to load me.
They still said no so I told em they have a few choices.
1, you let me stay and I will sign for reciept of load.
2, u unload me cause then, as I am not signing for a load untill I can legally move of your property and mt I can legally move.
Guess where I got to stay.
This being said if you unload at a shipper u can move to a safe place to park as your not under load anymore.
The FMCSA really needs to address this issue and either make a ruling to allow a driver to leave the shipper to park somewhere safe of force the shipper to allow the driver to park, neither of which is gonna happen.
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