CSA 2010: How will the Driver Rating System affect you?

No it would have made to much sense. They don't want our input because we don't have the money to have lobbyist in washington to do things for us that would actually make sense. This new system has some things that I think are good from what I've read but I think as a whole it's just sticking farther where the sun don't shine for us. JMO

 

Think once noted on the dvir the repair has to happen or signed off by a mechanic as not dangerous and no repair needed.

Well thats hot my old logs read before going to electronic logs.

 

This I don't doubt. It often boggles my mind how the ATA can possibly claim to represent the driver when they are constantly supporting legislation that hurts drivers.

I believe a lot of people have given that question far too little thought. Some think you can just put all the freight on rail and be done, but last time I checked, the rail network in this country doesn't have anywhere near the capacity to handle it.

It seems to me politicians rush into things without considering the long term consequences. They want fewer truck drivers, fewer trucks, less pollution. While many acknowledge the need for trucks, there's a huge case of "not in my back yard" -- and yet these people thing goods will just magically appear on store shelves?

It boggles the mind. It really does.

This you are absolutely correct about. What I was pointing out was merely that foreign drivers are not to blame.

But that doesn't really even matter. The reality is, with the economy the way it is, there are plenty of US citizens who are in financial dire straits and willing to work for too cheap. The threat to the wage and job security of experienced drivers is the same regardless.

 

How will the new point system affect a O/O? After what point can they take away youre ability to operate a commercial vehicle.

 

My one major problem with this system is what happened to me today. I started my day in Detroit at 4 am or so an did a pretrip, and all my lights were working perfectly. I drove to Cincinnati,oh dropped that load and switched trailers.... again i checked all the lights and everything was working fine. So i started driving on 74 to illinois and get pulled over by an officer west of indy. ( i had been driving continusly from cincinatti) He told me he was doing random inspections on trucks so i turned on my lights and signals etc. and my headlight was out so i got a ticket. I got out and looked at it and it has a hole in the middle of it (i have a ken t600 that uses those square headlights) that had oviously come from a rock or something and broken it on the way from cincinnati. Mind you it was 2pm or so on a clear day and my lights were not even on to begin with.

So now according to that website i have 6 points or something on my record through no fault of my own.

It is going to start getting a little silly when this goes into affect. Werner will not be happy(not to mention my pocket book) if I start making a trailer repair service come out for every little thing thats wrong with trailers.

 

Well first of all the ATA has NEVER claimed to REPRESENT THE DRIVER..ATA represents the COMPANIES... you know the super sized fleets USexpress. Prime. Schnider. Covenant, JB you know all the BIG BOY companies.

 

Hmmm.......True in most states.......
I run the I-5 corridor sometimes and there's some drivers there who you'd swear just stepped off the boat or walked through the gate yesterday.....

Now....I'm not posting this as to start anything....just an observation.....

 

Something everyone keeps forgetting about, CSA 2010 also change the way companies are audited, and fined, and put out of service. Instead of the current system that only gets around to a limited number of companies a year, every driver that gets ding for a citation, inspection, the company also gets dinged. After so many drivers from the same company having citations, a pattern develops and the company is given a short period of time to implement and correct the non compliance that the driver reports are showing the company allows to happen.

CSA 2010 also cross references equipment numbers, addresses, owners of new companies, to try and stop the shut down and reopen companies.

Yes it will cause us drivers some hassels, like the broken headlight example, but in the long run it will improve the quality of the equipment on the road, and the quality of the drivers. Those that understand how to play within the rules will have no troubles, those who want to do it their way will spend lots of money to continue to play.

I have had to argue with my company over a trailer tire, and I refused to move that trailer until it was fixed. A quick digital picture from the shop, changed the companies mind.

 

Between this CSA 2010 NONSENSE (which I just spent the last 2 hours reading about) and the upcoming mandate regarding EOBRs, no doubt coming soon to your truck, there is no way drivers are going to make a paycheck worth all the #### we will have to put up with. No way the avaerage driver is going to be able to be the sole wage earner for the average family of 4. No way the driver is going to be able to even take more than 2-4 days off a month.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to get out of the business! Last one out, lock the door and turn out the lights please!
Let the rookie drivers and CDL MILLS have the trucks and highways. They think that there will be fewer accidents and fatalities, I dont think so! The vetern drivers, obviously, are no longer appreciated, needed or even wanted in this industry! So Screw the whole #### system! I have got to get into another line of work or just go on welfare, maybe I'll just wait till the GOV'T comes to take away my CDL. that seems to be the inevitable truth.

 

What will probably eventually happen, is that drivers will be paid hourly off of the EOBRs. I'm not saying the pay will be great, but with the recorders, at least a company will have a way to somewhat accurately keep up with hours worked. It will almost have to come to hourly pay, as the government regulations will force this to happen.