Broker to carrier spot, who decides the rate and fuel surcharge?

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by cavtruck, Aug 12, 2021.

  1. PPLC

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  3. jason6541

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    As long as I can make a decent profit and broker and I are happy with the rate and
    Everything goes like it should. Everyone gets a cut of the pie I am not overly concerned what broker is making.
    I either take the load or I don’t, and if said broker passes credit check then I go on down the road. Some get so caught up if someone is making a little money.
    I get it, I don’t want screwed over either. life is to short for all that aggravation.
     
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  4. PPLC

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    Sure, no disagreement with you at all on that. The only point of contention I'm making is that DAT and/or ITS is not willfully shelling out bad information. It's getting the information that it gets, which as @6wheeler notes is derived from factoring companies. And by and large, companies that need to factor are companies that are more likely to take lower rates, etc, etc, ad nauseum. That doesn't make it bad information - merely incomplete information. On some lanes, it's fine. On others, it's a nut punch.
     
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  5. ProfessionalNoticer

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    Sunbelt Finance offers free credit checks from a website they run. It's very rarely in line with what ITS and DAT report. If people want to let some BS algorithm dictate their rates than so be it. It's incredibly foolish though.
     
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  7. PPLC

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    My lack of CDL does, though, lol.
     
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  8. ProfessionalNoticer

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    ...and the plot thickens lol.
     
  9. JimmyTwoTimes

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    I think this post is adorable.

    To clarify, you are insinuating that DAT and ITS are conspiring with freight brokering companies with bad credit scores, specifically to trick carriers and owner/operators into doing business with said brokers under false pretenses?

    Read the above sentence out loud. It sounds silly when you hear it, right?
     
  10. ProfessionalNoticer

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    I think your paranoia is adorable. To "conspire" isn't the same as catering to your preferred clientele but whatever helps you sleep at night. Brokers pay at least three times more for the services offered by these boards. Carriers are mules and are treated as such. Sad but true.
     
  11. JimmyTwoTimes

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    Sorry, it still sounds silly. As a large brokerage we go to considerable effort to make sure our days to pay and credit scores are attractive to carriers in an attempt to gain a competitive edge. Why would DAT strategically make the decision to risk alienating companies like us (that pay on time and traditionally spend more to have more DAT logins) to cater to companies that have poor credit scores and are at risk to go under or pay late?

    Rather than some weird unethical business tactic, is it possible that the data set they use to calculate broker credit scores isn't always complete, leading to sometimes inaccurate reporting?
     
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