7/3 split question

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Dna Mach, May 20, 2021.

  1. MTN Boomer

    MTN Boomer Road Train Member

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    I could care less what you think as far as the regulations. It is STUPIDITY at its finest to not Check your equipment out before you start, during the trip and when you park
     
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  3. drivingmissdaisy

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    I did. What part says I have to conduct a pre trip inspection?

    396.1 Scope.
    (a) Every motor carrier, its officers, drivers, agents, representatives, and employees directly concerned with the inspection or maintenance of commercial motor vehicles must be knowledgeable of and comply with the rules of this part.
    (b) Every intermodal equipment provider, its officers, agents, representatives, and employees directly concerned with the inspection or maintenance of intermodal equipment interchanged or offered for interchange to motor carriers must be knowledgeable of and comply with the rules of this part.
    (c) This part does not apply to “covered farm vehicles,” as defined in 49 CFR 390.5, or to the drivers of such vehicles.
    (d) The rules in this part do not apply to “pipeline welding trucks” as defined in 49 CFR 390.38(b).

    And what are YOUR qualifications? Obviously reading comprehension isn't one of them.
     
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  4. MTN Boomer

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  5. ZVar

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    Nobody is advising that. There is a huge difference between claiming something is good practice vs. something is a regulation.
     
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  6. drivingmissdaisy

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    Why do you quote me and then not say anything?

    If anything, 396.3 would be CLOSER to what you're claiming, but still, it doesn't say a driver must conduct a pre trip inspection. It doesn't define "systematically". My truck is maintained systematically by the maintenance shop.

    396.3 Inspection, repair, and maintenance.
    (a) General. Every motor carrier and intermodal equipment provider must systematically inspect, repair, and maintain, or cause to be systematically inspected, repaired, and maintained, all motor vehicles and intermodal equipment subject to its control.

    (1) Parts and accessories shall be in safe and proper operating condition at all times. These include those specified in part 393 of this subchapter and any additional parts and accessories which may affect safety of operation, including but not limited to, frame and frame assemblies, suspension systems, axles and attaching parts, wheels and rims, and steering systems.

    (2) Pushout windows, emergency doors, and emergency door marking lights in buses shall be inspected at least every 90 days.

    (b) Required records. Motor carriers, except for a private motor carrier of passengers (nonbusiness), must maintain, or cause to be maintained, records for each motor vehicle they control for 30 consecutive days. Intermodal equipment providers must maintain or cause to be maintained, records for each unit of intermodal equipment they tender or intend to tender to a motor carrier. These records must include:

    (1) An identification of the vehicle including company number, if so marked, make, serial number, year, and tire size. In addition, if the motor vehicle is not owned by the motor carrier, the record shall identify the name of the person furnishing the vehicle;

    (2) A means to indicate the nature and due date of the various inspection and maintenance operations to be performed;

    (3) A record of inspection, repairs, and maintenance indicating their date and nature; and

    (4) A record of tests conducted on pushout windows, emergency doors, and emergency door marking lights on buses.

    (c) Record retention. The records required by this section shall be retained where the vehicle is either housed or maintained for a period of 1 year and for 6 months after the motor vehicle leaves the motor carrier's control.
     
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  7. MTN Boomer

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    It is a Dot requirement that a vehicle must be inspected and the report maintained. There are a number of sites. JJ Keller will sell you an App plus the forms. If you have the misfortune of being in a fatality accident; you will find that a great deal of emphasis is placed on Maintenance Records. Specifically the Pretrip. It is a DOT law
     
  8. MTN Boomer

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    It is in many locations. You can get a printed form. A check list even
     
  9. MTN Boomer

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    Hell no. You are claiming that a Pre trip is not required
     
  10. MTN Boomer

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    Fmsca has the printed Regulations, maybe on you tube
     
  11. ZVar

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    It's not per the regulations. And you have yet to show regulations that requires it. The closest is the driver has to be satisfied a whole list of items is in working order.

    Or simply go to the ecfr site that has been posted several times. You keep claiming a driver has to do a pre trip, but you still haven't actually posted any regulation that claims that. Every regulation you have posted doesn't claim what you say it does.
     
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