I'm new, but not THAT new. Need advice for Electronic Logs / DOT checkpoints

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by 3Y CSM, Nov 18, 2021.

  1. 3Y CSM

    3Y CSM Bobtail Member

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    This is my first thread and I am actually an older driver with 15 plus years of DRIVING experience, but I worked for the Dept. Of Defense doing short hauls all over the state of Colorado. Most of my loads were hauled with a commercial KW W900 18 speed, and my loads frequently exceeded 95K on a drop-deck trailer. I am retiring from the DOD and want to driver commercial. The problem is that I have NEVER had to manage an electronic logbook, nor have I ever stopped at the scales or roadside checks because I was exempt from DOT regulations. Now, I need to learn E-Logs and DOT regulations as they pertain to the real world. I went and got my CDL in 2013 even though it was not required (a stipulation in the law allows for military drivers in uniform to not be required to have a CDL), but I got the CDL anyway in order to prepare for commercial driving. Now that retirement is actually happening, I went and took the tests to add tanker, hazmat, doubles/triples to my license even though I do not plan on using them anytime soon. So, what software / apps, or training might be available to me? I think handling the truck isn't going to be a huge distraction at least on the highways and the mountains, but I am a complete newbie when it comes to truck-stops, logs, dry van hauling, dealing with dispatching, etc, etc, etc.
     
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  3. feldsforever

    feldsforever Road Train Member

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    1st. Thank you for your service.
    2) there are 3 types of elds. I used two. And they both took about a week to get used to.
    3) truck stops just suck period.
    4) keep your weight even on the axles and watch the speed with in 20 mins of the big cities you should be ok.

    5 here's the big one. You will prolly be able to pick up where you left off with heavy hauling. But I have no experiance in that area.
    It won't take to long, and you will be wishing you didn't retire.
     
  4. 3Y CSM

    3Y CSM Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the lightning fast reply. Thanks for the advice! I was always spoiled with hotel rooms and a short, bed only sleeper for emergencies so truck-stops were rare and usually for fuel only. I tried to find information on ELD's, but there is nothing out there I could use to try and learn all the variables involved: 10 hrs on the road with a 30 min break during the first 8, 14hrs on duty after 10 hrs in the sleeper? and if you move even 5 feet you screw up the system? I have had several trucking companies including a couple of heavy haulers that want me, but I don't want to come in looking like a fish out of water with years of practical experience, but absolutely no insight into how the commercial world works. Thanks again
     
  5. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    With your heavy haul experience, look for a local job that allows you to use the 100 air mile radius exemption.

    Current regulations allow 14 consecutive hours within a circle with a 150 air mile radius.
    You need to return to your starting point and be relieved within 14 consecutive hours and have 10 hours off between shifts.
    Your carrier is responsible to maintain 'time records' to monitor hours of service, no ELD unless you leave the big circle more than 7 times in 29 days; then a ELD is required.

    Most construction and equipment distributors operate in a limited area and are usually home in one shift...just your forte

    Inspections happen, more to trucks that are dirty with a pile of stuff on the dash, etc.
     
  6. 3Y CSM

    3Y CSM Bobtail Member

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    I never heard of this, but it sounds like the way to go! I still need to learn everything else for OTR (better money), but the 100 air mile "exemption" might be a great start. Thanks
     
  7. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    Your question isn't so much with elds as it is with the HOS and trip planning. Search the new driver thread for trip planning titles.
     
  8. tarmadilo

    tarmadilo Road Train Member

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    ELDs are usually not hard to learn, but as gentleroger says, they make more sense if you know the HOS rules.
     
  9. TheLoadOut

    TheLoadOut Road Train Member

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    While driving for the DOD I'm curious if you ever had a situation with an overzealous DOT cop or local county mounty that either did not know to leave you alone or didn't care and still wanted to do his thing. Or did you always have an escort?
     
  10. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    You need to learn the Hours of Service regulations, inside and out, backwards and forwards.

    in quick review:

    four clocks:

    8 hour clock: you may not drive a CMV after 8 hours of driving, unless you take a 30 minute minimum break from driving (I.e off duty, on duty or sleeper berth).
    11 hour clock: you may not drive a CMV for more than 11 hours during a duty shift.
    14 hour clock. You may not drive a CMV AFTER 14 hours since first coming on duty.
    All three clocks reset to zero after a 10 hour period of combined sleeper berth and off duty.
    70 hr clock: you may not drive a CMV after reaching 70 hours of on duty and driving hours in an 8 day period. (60 hours in a 7 day period if you operate 6 days a week only).

    the 70 hour clock resets after 34 hours combined off duty / sleeper berth.

    Extra points: the new split sleeper berth rule. Not for those who do not understand HOS basics yet.
     
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2021
    Reason for edit: Corrected 8 hr rule.
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  11. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    8 hour is now just drive time, not since coming on duty. So you can't drive more than 8 total hours since the last time you spent 30 consecutive minutes not on line 3

    I know it's what you meant, it's just really hard to out into words.
     
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