Good Rookie Company to Use For Training...Then Quit

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  1. TROOPER to TRUCKER

    TROOPER to TRUCKER Anything Is Possible

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    And people wonder why contracts exist
     
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  3. Dockbumper

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    Hey.......everything is free now!
     
  4. Ffx95

    Ffx95 Road Train Member

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    You’re jumping into an ice cold pool after a hot shower. It’s very possible to run owner op with no experience many have done it but many have went belly up their first year too. Sorry if it seems rude but you seem to have a know it all mentality you need to lose that. There’s a lot to learn in trucking and you never stop learning. I think you should run as a company driver for a year or two and see first if you’re ok with the lifestyle first cause trucking is more than a career it’s a lifestyle don’t just look at the money. Don’t just look at those YouTube owner ops they paint the good side of trucking almost never the struggles that also come with it.
     
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    some say that a trade isn’t learned it’s stolen. An apprentice needs to watch learn and steal the trade in order to succeed as not many masters teach their secrets.
     
  6. bryan21384

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    I am not an owner operator, nor do I have plans to be one, but the one thing I know about trying to be successful, I've never seen a quick path to it.
     
  7. roundhouse

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    If you really want to just jump into the deep end with no swimming lessons ,
    And sink or swim,

    I’d suggest talking to an owner op who is fixing to retire and selling their truck and trailer and MC number .

    maybe they would be willing to help out with some advice .

    but you really do need a mentor , you wouldn’t open a pizza place or a nail salon or a tire store without knowing the business and how to make money and what pitfalls to avoid.

    no mega company is going to teach you that .
    They want indentured servants , not independent business owners.
    They will teach you how to drive , and make
    You pay them $7500 for it .
    That’s how they keep you from quitting in the first 12 months .
    If you quit you owe them $7500.

    for a three or four week class at their company ,
    When a CDL class at a community college or vocational school usually costs $1,500 and is 12 weeks of class and road time .



    trucking is a cut throat business .
    No one is going to share how they make it work.
    They are terrified that some newbie rookie is going to steal their loads and contracts
    And put them out of business

    which is laughable , a newbie rookie is 95% of the time going to go broke in no time and end up owing money


    except the YouTube people like “justtrucking “ who are making more money from YouTube than they are from the actual trucking .


    But a large factor in your success or lack of it is : are you a decent mechanic ?

    It will be very hard to survive as an OO if you have to wait for a road service mechanic and pay their rates, to have minor items repaired.

    that will eat up all of your profit.


    And the next question is how much do you have saved up for the down payment and how much for a reserve fund for unexpected repairs ?

    you’re gonna need about $30-40k for each fund.

    that said , I knew nothing about trucking when I bought a truck.
    I had never driven a truck except in the CDL class at the community college.

    I managed to make money doing it , but I could have made a lot more of I had a mentor to show me what to do. And what not to do .

    read some of the sad horror stories of the people who sign on for the lease purchases and how they work for weeks at 70 -80 hours a week and still end up not only not making a dime , but actually owing the company they leased from money.

    there’s several posts on this site on the sub forum “drivers looking for a team driver “

    if you can find an O/O that is willing to share how they do business , knowing that you are going to leave .
    Like I said , most companies want you to stay un knowledgeable so you won’t leave , but this industry has nearly 200% turnover .

    Nearly Every driver leaves anyway, so teaching them how to run their own truck isn’t exactly a threat. Odds are the driver is not going to hang around long anyway.


    And there are a few good companies that have drivers that are paid on a percentage , the driver gets , let’s say 20% of the gross to the truck.

    The only problem to that is if the company isn’t showing you the actual manifest , of what the shipper is paying . And the company deals directly with the shipper and no broker is involved .

    if a broker is involved The company is most liklely cheating you , the company owns a brokerage and they just Re broker the load to them selves a few times slicing off 15 or 20% each time so when they show you the rate contract , the rate has been cut by 40-60%
    BEFORE the company pays you your 20%

    the only way you know they are not cheating is if there is no broker involved at all, if the company bids on the load directly from the shipper , AND shows you the per mile or per load rate , on the manifest that the shipper hands you when you pick up the load .

    I know a couple of companies that do this .
    They will not use brokers, they will deadhead before they haul a brokered load, and the shipper they work with prints the bid amount on the bill of lading , so when the driver picks up the load, the driver knows exactly what the load pays and knows the company isn’t skimming a huge amount off the top before they tell you what the load pays .
     
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    F788B2F9-396E-43B6-954D-8866ABB4EAF1.png Something like this
    If they are selling the truck and trailer they are likely retiring.
    No idea why the link is in Japanese …
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  9. Dockbumper

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    登录或注册即可查看 - translation from Chinese - "sign in or sign up to view it"
     
  11. jason6541

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    I think we scared them off as no further replies. Guess answers or advice wasn’t what they hoped for
     
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