Buying a truck from my employer?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by drlmi, Jan 10, 2010.

  1. drlmi

    drlmi Light Load Member

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    Let me first say, Hello Mr. Obvious. Long time listener, first time caller.


    I recently was offered a deal by my current employer, it seems like a good deal for him, was wondering if any of you thought it would be a good deal for me. The deal is purchasing a truck from him while leasing to him until its paid off. Yeah a lease deal only its not a big company, just a guy with a truck who doesn't want it anymore.


    Truck is an International 9400, 3406 Cat, 51” sleeper, 10 speed, 830,000 with original engine and parts.
    Price is $9500.00 $500 a month for 19 months. He's “Holding the paper”.


    What he wants:


    23% revenue


    I pay: - through him of coarse.


    $500 month insurance on truck
    $180 month insurance on trailer, his trailer.
    Maintenance on trailer, his trailer.
    $2200 year give or take, plates on truck.
    $500 year give or take heavy use tax.
    IFTA
    Fuel
    All maintenance on truck (my truck now)


    Some of the finer points:


    I get paid when he does. If he does.
    Trailer insurance?


    I have worked for these people for about three total years, I do have reservations about trusting them with this, but I don't want to pass up a deal, if its one at all. The biggest things that gets me is the trailer insurance, is there such a thing? All trailers have there own policy? Then there is the fact that most websites of bigger companies I have looked at show them paying base plates or insurance or both when there is a percentage of revenue for them. At least that much.



    Of coarse we will be running loads mostly from the boards, so the going rates apply.


    Any advice is appreciated, thanks.
     
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  3. marmonman

    marmonman Road Train Member

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    6000.00 a year to insure a truck worth 9500.00 ? Don't seem right to me

    My truck insurance runs 51.00 a month for collision bobtail is 18.00 !
     
  4. lowbudget

    lowbudget Medium Load Member

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    just RUN

    23% seems high, paying insurance on HIS trailer? no way... wouldn't pay for maintainence either, thats what the 23% is for. IF he gets paid? just run away.
     
  5. ampm wayne

    ampm wayne Heavy Load Member

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    He keeps 23% You get 77%-That sounds reasonable.
    I am a little confused about the trailer. We are leased to a company that charges nothing for use of the trailers. We have to grease it twice a month and sometimes take it for repairs. We do not pay for maint,or insurance on their trailers.
    I would think this guy could charge you rent on a trailer but,You are not buying the trailer so he should be paying for trailer ins.
    Are you sure the $180 is trailer ins. It could be cargo ins. for the freight you are hauling. I could see that.
    I am a little worried about this because you posted you have reservations about the deal. It is your decision. I would make sure you totally understand the deal and have someone you trust look over the deal before you sign anything.
    GOOD-LUCK Keep us posted
     
  6. Gears

    Gears Trucker Forum STAFF - Gone, But Not Forgotten.

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    23% off the top? He's pretty deep into your pocket as far as I'm concerned. If you weren't paying trailer rental or maintenance on that trailer, 23% would be more realistic, but still a might high in my eyes.

    marmonman, I'm sure the insurance includes cargo and liability. That would make those insurance numbers more reasonable.
     
  7. ampm wayne

    ampm wayne Heavy Load Member

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    I am in agreement with Gears. For his 23% he should be taking care of trailer expenses. Also,if he has good freight it is worth him keeping 23%. If he can only get you cheap freight the 23% is too much.
     
  8. Big John

    Big John Road Train Member

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    You can find a good truck at that price everywhere, just look in truckpaper. They are selling late model Walmart trucks for 10 or 12 thousand then you can lease to anyone if you want or need too. Then a van trailer is cheap and you might as well get your own authority if all he does is get loads from load boards and pays when he gets paid. How are you going to know when he gets paid. And final thought you said you had " I do have reservations about trusting them with this" well I wouldn't do it. Just my 2 cents.
     
  9. Mr. PlumCrazy

    Mr. PlumCrazy Road Train Member

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    You didn't say what year the truck was but paying $8160 for truck and trailer insurance is a bit high. and everything being original with 830,000 how long before major overhaul what kind of condition is the truck in is it going to make it a 19 months and turn a profit or is it going to cost you more to keep it up than what you make.
     
  10. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    Run! You stated you have worked for these guys for three total years. Indicating there has been a gap in there & 23% plus everything else you mentioned for using their authority sounds high. If he is throwing all those payments into your court now, probably wouldn't be long 'til you were having to find your own loads & paying for access to the boards as well.
     
  11. coastie

    coastie Road Train Member

    If it sounds to good to be true, RUN. Listen to your inner self. It will not lie to you.
     
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