CSA2010 and log book form and manner violations

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Mike_MD, Nov 10, 2009.

  1. TankerYankr

    TankerYankr Medium Load Member

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    The main enforcement will most likely NOT be any form of federal or state government, but the trucking companies or the almighty insurance carriers.
     
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  3. roshea

    roshea Road Train Member

    That's the plan, and the right attitude.

    How many posts have there been on this forum about bad drivers? Every day each of us sees drivers that shouldn't be on the road. They are in all aspects of the industry, local, regional, intermodal, and OTR, Well this may be what the industry needs, to weed out the ones who don't give a flip about safety.

    If they'd every start looking at how drivers .... DRIVE ... then real gains would be made. I've seen plenty of drivers with immaculately maintained equipment and who can paperwork straight be total ***holes on the road. They will sail through inspections every time, but the equipment is only part of the safety equation.

    Maybe CSA2012 will fix that?
     
  4. TankerYankr

    TankerYankr Medium Load Member

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    My understanding is that that drivers driving record will also be brought into the equation
     
  5. truckerdave1970

    truckerdave1970 On Probation

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    FWIW, DON'T Call me a "professional" until I started getting PAID AND TREATED with the respect that "professionals" deserve like Doctors or Lawyers!
    They always want to slap that "professional" label on us when they need to BLAME someone but never on PAYDAY!
    Just like the military, you dont call an enlisted man "sir", they WORK FOR A LIVING!
     
  6. roshea

    roshea Road Train Member


    Yes that's true, but that's only for what they've been caught doing. Seriously, how much attention is paid to improper lane changes, following too closely, and excessive speeding, as a routine part of the "safety" enforcement?

    When we have four or five days of pre-planned "stepped up enforcement" does anyone see more traffic stops, or is it almost exclusively massive effort to do inspections and log checks at the scalehouse?

    Crashes tend to occur when vehicles are in motion ... cause by direct actions of the drivers involved. Failure to log a fuel stop two hours into my day has zero relationship to a crash occuring in the third hour, yet there would be hell to pay for log falsification, etc.. I just feel far too much effort is put into paperwork and not looking at actual driving behavior. Having 30yrs of tank experience I got tired of being pulling in to be checked only because I had haz-mat. Did they check the truck? No - it was all about the paperwork.
     
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  7. TankerYankr

    TankerYankr Medium Load Member

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    Please understand that I don't want to start a war, or that I'm saying that you personally are one of the problems, but I'll let you know what I've been saying for years.

    The reason drivers don't get treated as "professionals" is because as you yourself are probally aware, as people look around and see how alot of drivers act, listen on the cb to their talk, look at the trash left around, etc., etc., etc., then being treated like scum is to be expected.

    Unfortunally the drivers who squeal the loudest about poor treatment are the ones usually most guilty of not showing professionalism.
     
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  8. TankerYankr

    TankerYankr Medium Load Member

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    Crap, I better start using the spell checker!!
     
  9. Roadmedic

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    The thing I do not like about csa2010 is that it leaves alot up to the officer.

    It becomes a matter of opinion as to whether the log is neat and clearly written.

    I do not see where spelling Albuquerque wrong would be a potential hazard on the road for safety.
     
  10. warhoop

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    Sounds like bovine scatology to me!! Everything the Federal Government implements is designed to sqeeze more money from the pockets of their "subjects", OOPS! I ment constituents
     
  11. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    Drivers that will and are in fear of loosing their jobs because of this have nobody to blame but themselves. If they had protected there livelihood and done things right they would not be in the predicament now.

    The people you hear bashing cops, telling everyone how they got screwed are usually the same ones that break the law and then run their mouths to the officer and blame someone else, it's never their fault. It will be the same way with the ones who will lose their job because of this new rating system. They will blame the system when in reality their is nobody to blame but themselves because if they did their job right from the start they would still be working.
     
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