New owner torn on a new truck.

It’s a high milage chassis . But the emission stuff is not going to get better anytime soon.

i know a guy with a brand new rig , had about 10k miles on it and it broke down and needed a tow to the stealership

took them 10 days to determine it was the injector wiring harness . Then took another two weeks to get one , and get it installed .

the nox sensor and def level sensor and def pumps are always going out and you’re parked until it gets fixed and the wait times on those parts is measured in weeks , not days .

 

Thats why I refused to buy new. I'm not going to feed that cow piss waiting for the warranty to go away. I have repairs for that system, that don't stop working.

 

Yep

there is NO way I’d have a rig with any emission crap on it .
Not even EGR.

it’s nothing but trouble and it WILL leave you sitting on the side of the road sooner or later .

Yes the new rigs use less fuel . But you will pay out that money is repairs and downtime .
I know a small company that gets rid of their trucks right before the warranty expires . But they still have breakdowns.


although the math might work out better for new rigs .
You have no repair costs and a huge tax deduction on the depreciation.

When the warranty expires and they will have to start paying for repairs and the Tax deduction runs out and they are
Going to have to start paying income tax on the profit the truck makes , it’s time to get a new rig .

 

I gotta say, past performance is no indicator of future performance, i drove a truck for 6 months absolutely 0 issues, then bought it, literally the day i signed paperwork the diff exploded on me, 1 month later, needed an axle doctor, a month later, electrical gremlins ate all the warning lights (some wire backfeeding somewhere)

 

Here's the thing about buying a new truck: Yeah, you get a great warranty, it's new, blah, blah,blah...But what happens if it breaks down on you? We all know that just because a truck is new, doesn't mean it can't or won't break down. I'm a newbie owner, but I'm sure a lot of you here have gone through that. So, if your shiny new truck breaks down, what good is a warranty if the part is weeks away? Now you have to sweat because your monthly payment with the loan-shark rate WILL NOT wait for the part to arrive. I will NEVER buy a new truck unless I can pay for it cash. There is no way I would let a breakdown set me back or even bankrupt me because the truck can't be repaired for weeks. I've talked to MANY who are going through this.

Banks and finance companies aren't stupid. They know that on the older trucks they have to require a large down payment and charge high interest, not because the borrower is high-risk, but because the book value on that used truck is nowhere near what the current selling prices are. Just look at the guy with the 830 FICO who is being charged a Tony Soprano-like interest rate.

So, me not being a mechanic and having limited technical knowledge, my two are options are to buy used pre-emissions trucks, or plunk down all cash or almost all cash on a new truck. But no 'TWEENERS. Those 2018 trucks with 500k miles on them with a $90,000 price tag are just HEADACHES WAITING TO HAPPEN. Would you pay someone $90k to hit you over the head with a 5-pound mallet? Probably not (unless you like that sort of thing). That's what happens when you buy a 'tweener--a truck that is born between pre-emission years and today. Of course, my philosophy is moot if your are an apt diesel mechanic or have extensive knowledge. If you are, then have at it. But not for me. At least not until I learn a lot more.

 

Got my 2016 in early 21. It came already broken. Little snip snip and it hasn't broken since. All I've done is maintenance. Tires brakes, bs like that. 130,000 miles later, still no mechanical issues. Would I like a 1988 mack back? Sure, but I'll take my 8-11 mpg 579 over the 4mpg 1988 mack any day of the week. Even if it means I have no shut off knob to pull, and the computer may one day decide to shut it down.

 

I hope your good fortune continues. Knock on wood...Can I ask how many miles it had and what you paid for it?

 

Listen to fld. That's the same mileage the 93 had on it when we got it (794 to be exact). My dad had it a year before actually putting it on the road before his oilfield job ended. It needed a bunch of nickel and dime items that really add up quickly. All new fuel line from the tanks to the pump. Lots of air lines, torque arm bushings, motor mounts, cab bushings, hood bushings, rear sill of the sleeper replaced because it was rusted out and that's a known spot on the Mack's. New tires all around and a lot of other stuff I'm forgetting. That was all done before it was put into service. And 100k later it was inframed and a 13sp rebuilt and swapped in from the 9. New CAC, new exhaust from turbo back, tank straps, steering box, tie rods

Now it doesn't nickel and dime you just regular maintenance items. Pretty soon it'll need a radiator and then the only big ticket item left is the rears and there's still a lot left in them.

Pretty soon the 99 is gonna need a lot of those small items too.

 

THIS RIGHT HERE ^^^^^^,
There's no way in Hell I would pony up 125k for any 379.right now today ... I can.find you all the 379s you want just like what your describing for 75 to 85k.. Your dancing with the devil

 

You can buy this truck for basically 1/2 the price of that 379 you got stiffness for same miles and top notch maintenance program probability better maintained than the 379 you looking at