Any 2-stroke gurus in here? Detroit 8v71 with misfire need help

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  1. beastr123

    beastr123 Road Train Member

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    He is now working out of his acreage outside Nashville TN
     
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  3. Green461

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    I am thinking the same, I only took that one side apart. Going to do the other side also. But we are thinking the muffler is making it sound like that.. Noticed its got a smaller muffler on that side and the other is bigger and way quieter..
     
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  4. jamespmack

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    Not much of a 2stroke guy. But how about putting a dial indicator on rocker to verify actual lift, even if lash is ok. Or compair side to side? Just a thought if you happen to have a cam lobe laying down. Just a thought.
     
  5. pup

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    To me that engine sounded pretty good. Sounds like it has an exhaust leak. Likely at a manifold to produce that type of noise.
    Low compression would smoke heavily especially at cold start up. Like Boxcar said the racks may be unbalanced left to right.
    Fuel pressure at the secondary filter outlet should be around 20psi idle 60 or so at high rpm.
    If you do get into the exhaust manifolds the studs screw into the water jacket. If the studs come out with the nuts you're gonna
    get a bath.
     
  6. Jubal Early Times

    Jubal Early Times Road Train Member

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    Sounds like an exhaust leak. I had an old mack with a blown head gasket that sounded just like that too. It blew to the outside and it had that ticking sound.
     
  7. Jubal Early Times

    Jubal Early Times Road Train Member

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    Looks like someone beat me to the exhaust leak theory.
     
  8. OLDSKOOLERnWV

    OLDSKOOLERnWV Captain Redbeard

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    You referring to the round tube or pipe running from the front to rear of head as the control tube with a bent bracket….

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  9. Green461

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    Yes, someone must have pried on it with something. The opposite end of the clevis pin. The bracket taken off you could see where it bolted to head was bent on the edge about 1/16 of an inch, so by the time it got to the end of the bracket it threw it about 1/4-3/8" off. I am not referring to the offset in the bracket but the mating point where it meets the head. Your pic shows tube parallel to the edge of head, mine was super crooked.... it may have been in correct adjustment though... I didnt check. I should have.

    I do believe the 2 banks are not balanced since I redid the one side. Will be working on that next. Is there a simple way to run the rack? What I did was hold the throttle lever wide open and then adjust them. I found an old service write up says to open the governor, back out idle, Put the wedge tool in to get full throttle, Is all that necessary if all i want to adjust is the rack? I also seen some vids where they just held the throttle open, Its hard to find any info or procedures.
     
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    OLDSKOOLERnWV Captain Redbeard

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    Well, if that’s the case…. I’d check to insure that all 4 injectors are properly synchronized. They all may be fueling but not synchronized.

    The pic I showed was from my 1980 General, it had set for 11 years. 3 injectors were stuck, after loosening the injectors and priming the heads along with the fuel filter, it rolled over 3 times and it was purring as if you shut it off yesterday…..
     
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  11. Inderjit

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    The rack adjustment is very important! Its been a long time since I worked on a two stroke over 35 years. If a injector is not set right it can cause a rough idle and what can sound like a miss. Setting the governor was done before setting the racks. Then the governor gap and the idle and the buffer screw. The injectors setting on the 71 series was 1.460" the 92 series was 1.484. Is there a data plate on one of the valve covers with the valve and injector settings?
    The two fuel lines to the injectors are prone to leaking fuel into the oil. Do not over tighten them!! Looking at your pictures I have never seen a 71 series with the spring loaded rack levers those came out on the 92 series. Your engine may have been updated.
    If an injector rack seized in the full fuel position it held all the injectors in the full fuel position as in "run away" the 71 series had a flap over the blower inlet that was released by a pull cable for emergency shutdown. The spring loaded rack lever allowed the other 7 injector racks to close if one seized open.
     
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