Pulling Doubles, are they as intimidating as I'm thinking?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Kennyworth67, Dec 8, 2022.

  1. Kennyworth67

    Kennyworth67 Bobtail Member

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    Awesome. Thanks. I'm not doing anything till spring. That way, by next winter, I'll have a much better idea what I'm doing with them.
     
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  3. Kennyworth67

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    A lot of drivers are overtime hounds and are right up against the HOS with all the overtime they do.
     
  4. Cattleman84

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    Ive never pulled double 28s, but I would imagine they probably track just as good if not better than a single 53. I pull A-Train tankers and hoppers, doubles just require a little more finess and attention. With my hopper train I'm 110 feet bumper to bumper and I can get into some moderately tight places without much problem...

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  5. Allow Me.

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    With a set of doubles you have 3 pivot points, makes it easy in your turns.
     
  6. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Doubles are easier to take around corners than 53 ft trailer. Essentially you ignore the 2nd trailer. Pretend you are going around the corner with just the lead trailer. The second trailer will follow exactly where the first trailer goes. People like you and me, with experience pulling long vehicles equate a longer combination to mean you have to swing wider to make a corner. NOT WITH DOUBLES. The few difficult situations I had pulling doubles on rare occassions was from swinging too wide and not being able to back up more than a few inches to 1 foot. Doubles can be a lot of work to make up a set or to break down a set of trailers. When you drive they are easier, although at first you are going to notice the rear trailer is peeking around the first trailer on one side and then the other side because you are't being smooth enough with your steering inputs. That's why they are called "wiggle wagons." Drive them like you are only pulling the first trailer. You cannot afford ANY PANIC STOPS, so leave more following distance. If you panic stop you could easily jackknife or turn over a trailer. NO PANIC STOPS.
     
  7. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    1099 pay is about 25-30% artificially inflated because it assumes you are not paying taxes and not buying health insurance. So a 1099 job paying 1,300 per week is equivalent to about a W-2 paying $1,000 per week. Lots of new 1099 driver fail because they have never paid taxes quarterly before and they spend their "paychecks" like it's a W-2 paycheck. On April 15th of the next year they realize they owe the IRS a few thousand dollars in taxes. Most 1099 "employers" are illegally classifying the driver as an independent contractor to dodge paying taxes. An employer that will cheat the IRS will cheat his driver.
     
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  8. Kennyworth67

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    Boy, that sure is a whole lot of truck. My hat's off to you for being able to pull that around. I can say, without reservation, that I wouldn't feel safe behind the wheel of that without a few weeks training by an old hand like you. Thanks for your post. I'm kinda looking forward to learning another part of trucking!
     
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  9. Kennyworth67

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    Thank you, Driver. That's exactly what I thought. I reckoned you'd naturally swing wider than a regular long box. I've seen videos of breaking down and setting up a set. Looks like a little bit of work but I ain't sweating that part too much. But, there is next to nothing in the way of instructional videos of pulling doubles.

    Driving a city bus, we aren't allowed any distractions. No radio, no talking, can't even take a sip of water except at red lights. So, that gives me a lot of time to think about stuff and second guess myself and wonder about a lot of the questions I have about doubles. I'll start paying attention to how the doubles/ triples drivers get around turns while driving my route.

    I'll be doing a 2-week refresher course for drivers with previous experience - which I don't mind at all. I've heard other drivers complain about ''going back to school." I don't mind one bit. I've been out of a truck for 9 years and I'm sure it couldn't hurt any. Things have changed a bit since then and I'd appreciate being brought up to speed. Seems like common sense to me. After that, I'll be with one of their drivers for a few weeks that will train me on the ins and outs of doubles. I'm looking forward to it. But, in the meantime, I wanted to pick the brains of drivers who already know what they are doing with them. You sound like one of them. Ten four on the increased following distance. I don't want to be one of the MANY guys whose rear pup flipped on them. Seen it all the time when I ran NE regional. Especially on them foggy hills on 81 and 83.

    Thanks again!
     
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  10. Kennyworth67

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    Any potential employer who says ANYTHING about a 1099- IMMEDIATELY sets off my ''Spidey Senses." I trust my senses. 1099 employers are usually dirtbag, bottom feeders who are dodgy in other areas as well.

    I learned my lesson with 1099's from doing it for about 3 months for an O.O who leased his equipment onto Kane (is able) out of Scranton, Pa. What a frigging nightmare. Real, real iffy equipment, ridiculous hours on what was supposed to be a ''local'' job and he paid IN CASH.

    Nice enough guy, but,I will never work a 1099 again. I'm not 22 anymore. If they aren't paying by check, offering benefits, a 401 AND running equipment that doesn't have me sweating like a hooker in Church at a scale house or a random roadside inspection- then, I won't even waste the time it takes to sign my name- with a company like that.
     
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  11. Cattleman84

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    I appreciate the compliment, but I wouldnt call my self an "old hand" by any stretch of the imagination.

    I'm pretty much a self taught driver, never have had any training perse... Just a handful of instructions from my Dad, lots of common sense, and time behind the wheel.

    Just take your time, keep your wits about you and you will do just fine.
     
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