I tried to give them a 2nd chance. They told me (lied) they could run me closer to home. For most of January they did. But my truck is a wreck, it always needs something fixed, and when they do fix things I lose hours/days. And that's assuming they fix it right or even bother to make the repair.
I've lost any trust in my FM, night and weekend dispatch are joke. I can't get home for my schedualed hometime, and I can't even get off a load when I KNOW weather/repairs/HOS will make me late.
The last straw came when missing a Valentine's weekend with my wife. And on top of that the heat in the truck stopped working just after the snowstorm hit the NE. The company wants me to drive to OH (from NJ) with no defroster(?!?). I emptied out my truck and am sitting at home trying to think of the "right thing" to do.
1.) drive a truck with no heat/defrost (they refused to repair it twice already) for 600 miles to the nearest termnial to quit.
2.) leave it right where it is and let them "come get it" (because if I got put OOS they'd have to do that to.)
3.) Take it to the nearest scalehouse/state police en route to said terminal and ASK for a Level I. Show the officer the qual-coms and logbooks where they refused to repair the truck, and THEN quit?
Frankly I'm sick of the whole thing. I'd rather go back to driving taxis. I'd rather deliver pizza's then spend one more night in a Pilot wondering if the truck is going to shut off in the night and not re-start.
Quick list of maladies:
1. lost a brake actuator (fixed)
2. no heat (denied)
3. no winshield wipers (fixed incorrectly by company shop, then fixed properly 2 weeks later # dealership)
4. fans short out regularly (wrong amp breaker in slot) not related to heat problem
5. radiator drinks 1-2 gallons of coolant a week (refused to repair)
6. Qualcomm went down (they rushed that to be fixed though)
7. bad alignment
I'm sure there are more but I'm tired and can't think of any.
I just want to walk away,,, how do I do this?
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Infosaur, Feb 16, 2010.
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Have you tried OSHA?
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Yeah I was just looking at that.
I noticed they spend a lot of time talking about Hazmat and not a lot on dangerous equpiment. (and nothing about uncomfortable enviroments, guess I'm stuck there)
Seems they (osha) want me to file a report, get an inspector, process, process, process. Sounds like it could take DAYS. But DON'T quit or you're on your own!
But if I don't get rolling in the AM, my company's gonna know something's up, and harras me. I just ripped all my personal stuff out of the truck, I really don't want to go back to it. -
I guess the nut of the question is: (as far a my DAC goes)
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I am sorry you are goig through this... It sounds like you already know you are going to quit this company and that is probably a good idea with the problems you are experiencing...
The question is now, so you still want to drive a truck? Are you interested in working for another company? Because, if not, then it doesn't really matter how you handle this... But, if you do still want drive a truck and be hired by another company then how you handle this situation will be a reflection on you.
If it were me, I would be interested in driving for another company, so I would drive the 600 miles to the terminal and do all I could to quit in a professional and responsible manner. That way I could show the next company that I am a professional and do the responsible things even under poor conditions and unprofessional treatment.
Also, in the morning I would get up early and find an O/O would could possibly help me with the heater/defrost and all... I had my defrost go out when I was in sub zero weather and the windshield would ice over... Found an O/O who was able to help me and got it working... I can't describe exactly what he did.. so I won't try.. because you would be better off finding an O/O to help you.
Hopefully you already have been, but I would document everything!!!
I know it is tough... I went through a rough time with having to deal with a jerk of a driver, and all sorts of b-s... Was out west and it took weeks and dealing with allot more crap and all from him before I could get back. But, no matter what I handled myself as a professional and got through it... Now it is behind me, I am in my own truck, it is nice, clean, runs well and things are much better.
But I do remember how tough it was to even think about another day of it and wanting to just bail and catch a flight home.. I didn't want to ruin my career in the trucking industry, so I endured and got through it and now, as I said it is behind me and things are much better...
Anyway, I hope it all works out for you, and please keep us posted. I will say a prayer for you....Gearjammin' Penguin, Big Don, Beechvtail and 3 others Thank this. -
I think I know how to fix what's wrong with the truck myself, actually.
I just don't have my full toolkit in the truck. And if they'd let me go home (on time) that'd be half the problem right there. Of course, they won't compensate me for doing the work myself, and in strange 'corporate logic' they'd probably disuade me from doing the work myself. (even if it was 'free' to them, by not paying me, I'm cheaper than even their shop guys.)
before you post, yes I know there are a laundry list of reasons for it, it's just another frustrating aspect of the lack of common sense in modern society.
I think the problem is it's just not working out for my family. I'd like to keep driving, but not OTR. If I'd done this 10-15 years ago maybe I'd treat it as more of a grand adventure. But for the same reason a guy doesn't leave a corporate law firm to work # McDonalds, I'm at a point in my life where I'm just getting too old to play these games.
I DID actually do something similar, 20 years ago I was a taxi/limo driver in NYC. We had the same unscrupulous employers, the same busted equipment, the job security of a shortstop with a .001 batting average. The difference is that I was making almost the same money, (and ajusted for inflation, it might be more) and I was home every night.
My 1st thought was going back into that business, but I thought a CDL was an investment I should try to hold on to. If the whole industry is like this? Then I'm better off being a hack. But I'm hoping I can find one of those "dream job" small firms that actually treat the driver like part of the customer-relations chain. Understanding that I'm out in the field getting face time with the customer.
I'm not the guy who's "missing" while you promise a delivery time 6 hours before I can possibly get there.
I'm not "an unavoidable expense"
I'm not someone who couldn't possibly know what's wrong with the vehicle when I report a problem.
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If you live in the Reading area you will most likely find something local. I personally would get that truck back to the terminal before I quit so you could leave on good terms. You might not want to be a driver anymore but I would not sell yourself short just in case. You don't wanna look back 6 months from now and kick yourself in the butt for some stupid emotional action. Some companies don't deserve you,roll with it and better yourself. Good luck with your decision.
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Was I you, I'd be thinking about a couple of things:
1. You say things aren't working out for your family. I'm assuming here that you mean away time and/or money issues. I'm also assuming this is your first trucking job. Not being sarcastic here, but this (or some variation of it) happens to alot of new drivers. You're gonna have to face the fact that for the first year or so that part isn't likely to change much regardless of who you're with. We tell "newbies" this over and over but it doesn't become reality for most until they come face to face with it. You and they are going to have to talk seriously about being in this situation over a few years if you stay OTR.
2. Quit and let them come get it. NO!!! This is "abandonment" at the very least and one of the worst things you can have on your record. Also leaves you wide open to their claiming that you "destroyed" a perfectly fine truck (Qualicom isn't gonna help you here) because they are gonna have "records" that "prove" the truck was fine when you got it and that "problems" were "taken care of". After all, YOU kept taking the truck out and thereby signing off that the work was done.
3. Same deal with the "inspection". They may very well decide to place you "out of service" until the truck is fixed but it also might get you fined and/or fired because YOU took it out knowing it was not right. Y'see the driver always has final responsibility for the state of the equipment. That's the way the law is written.
You're going to have to return the truck to them. Now somewheres along the way I'd call in about the windshield issue and tell them "Windshield keeps icing over, I can't see to drive... almost wrecked it". That will get you patched up enough to get to the terminal at least.
Once there you're gonna have to see the terminal manager and tell him "I'm sorry, but I just can't keep limping this truck around this way. It's unsafe for me, the public and the company. I just can't do my job properly worried all the time that the truck is gonna quit on me or get me in a wreck". Do NOT complain about hours, dispatch or home time at this point. Be all about safety and job performance. Ask for a better truck or this one to be fixed properly. This puts the issue fairly in their lap.
If they still refuse or try to "patch" then you have justifiable reason to quit. If they say ok, do not go anyplace but the repair shop or directly to the location of a better truck. No "deliveries along the way". You've got an unsafe truck remember. Calmly say no..... this makes you the reasonable one. But this time stick to it regardless of what they say or promise.
At least this will give you the option of still bringing in a paycheck (no matter a meager one) while you look for a better job every day. Job applications always look better if you can say you're working but looking for better. This way too, you avoid having black marks on your DAC.
Hang in there. I know it's rough, but things will get better down the road a piece.
Hey, you wanna talk rough.... I changed countries as well as jobs. Wooooeeee, that ain't no fun atall.
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Step 1 find new job while staying employed with the other guys.
Step 2 do what the hell ever ya want, within legal means of course. Tell the new company why you want to leave your current company. Of course when it shows on your DAC it wont matter as youll already be snug with your new company, and they will have already been informed on what to expect. Just make sure you cover the bases with the new guys.JustSonny, Beechvtail and Blue Screen Thank this. -
I'm the kind of guy that would find the nearest DOT cop and explain things to him. Let the company take some loss on the deal since they won't put up the money to fix it.
If you find one with even a shread of heart left in him he would write the company plenty of tickets and leave you out of it. At least I would if a driver showed me where he had tried to do the right thing and the company was stiffing him. I'd be all over that truck with a fine tooth comb.Beechvtail, shriner75, JustSonny and 3 others Thank this.
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