STAY AWAY FROM INTERNATIONAL TRUCKS.

If it’s a 2022 wouldn’t it be covered under warranty? Not that, that reduces the aggravation but how do you have a 14,000 repair bill?

 

This one gave me a hard on.
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Those are sweet too but I want a pre 1984 when it was still International Harvester.. before they filed for bankruptcy and were bought by Navstar

 

sorry to hear about your situation.

i put in 48 years as a driver only, never an o/o.

i drove all name brand trucks, except Scania, when "some" were here in the states.

from a drivers point of view, i cared less the color, engine, and truck make. the only things i never wanted as i got more into the business, was a cab-over and an automatic, fully or automated, i wanted a stick shift all the time.

when i retired, i turned in my CDL, i never looked back, never wanted to buy a dump/plow/salt-shaker, i wanted nothing more to do with trucks.

now, this quote from YOU

frankly, if you been in the business as long as i have been, then YOU KNEW ALL ABOUT Internationals for decades, yet, YOU went out and bought one...???

we often say here, that......"there is NO common sense any more"

YOU PROVED THAT saying in SPADES..........

yet you came here to gripe about a company that you KNEW FULL WELL ABOUT, for decades......

good luck, but actually you DESERVED what you go.......

 

In my humble opinion, there hasn’t been a decent truck built in the last 20 years.
This rush to squeeze every drop of fuel has compromised the reliability of so many brands. Not to mention the mega companies only want a tractor that they can wad up and throw away after three years.
25 years ago I was driving a Freightliner FLD with a Detroit series 60 in front of a 13 speed pulling a 48’ refer and getting between 5.9 and 6.5 MPG. Not much difference than today.
The difference is that I put over 600k miles on it and except for oil and tires she only saw the inside of a shop when the A/C crapped out.
The newer trucks I have driven are rattle traps and undependable. The Mack Pinnacle (2018) seems to be the better of all the others we have, KW, Volvo, Freightliner, but, it’s a Mack.

 

The difference today is that its called a Cascadia, with a DD15 in front of a 12-speed AMT pulling a 53' reefer and getting between 7.9 and 8.5 mpg.

2 full mpg is a huge difference.

 

i agree 100%

 

In other words, not much has changed in 25 years.
Except that the Cascadia with its computerized engine and automatic transmission is sitting on the side of the road waiting for road service.

 

Sorry it isn't a complicated engine, the dealer should know what the problem is or at least know enough to track down the problem. If there was a serious problem, a regional service manager should be called in (you can ask for one) to escalate the problem with NAVISTAR and if they can't get something done, then they can hand it to one of the field engineers who will go to the dealer and see what they are NOT doing.

I have a truck sitting here (never will be on the road EVER) with a lot of problems, I took a $67,000 loss (it was increased from $63,000 because of legal fees), so I know what it means to have a truck down without any one figuring it all out. BUT five months is too long without action. Like Cummins, calling International will give you just lip service.

The car companies started their crap with emissions around 1961 with the PCV system, then in 1966 was the air injection system which started to lower HP, then we had the EGR in 1972, and the Cat in 1975. CARB came into existence in 1967 and in 1970 Nixon created the EPA with a tight charter to limit the damage they could do, which didn't work out that way.

The SAE changed the way Horse Power was measured in 1971, which changed all the ratings on all engines. Going from Gross to Net made it look like there were huge loses.

As for International trucks, well they made Ford pickup trucks engines so it is the same design as the millions of PUs. I disagree with this "international trucks are the dodge rams of trucking, poorly built low quality trucks with zero resell value." I think the international trucks are the Ford of trucking, poorly built low quality trucks with zero resell value. Disclosure, I have several new Fords and when they depreciate completely, they are gone - nothing but a PIA.

 

Chevys suck and so does baseball. But I do like the others just a FYI. LOL