Gun control is not the American way!

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  1. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    False characterization

    Goalpost moving coupled with hypocrisy

    Ad hominem and name calling

    Hypocrisy (the exact reason i said it wasnt all that fruitful)

    Name calling


    Waiting for ANYTHING substantive chap.
     
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  3. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Goal posts moving-

    Climate change, nazis, and school shootings have all been brought in.

    Here is something substantial enough- We have the right to bear arms as provided in The 2nd Ammendment of The Constitution.
     
  4. Dave_in_AZ

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    @gentleroger want to see the Glocks too? I know you're someone that can appreciate being able to lay down a volume of fire so you can pin someone down, and advance on their position.
     
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  5. skallagrime

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    No moving goalposts

    examples of other things as illustrations only. School shootings is not mentioned in MY current discussion.

    I have not disagreed with the 2nd amendment right, (elsewhere on this forum I've voiced my beleif that that does mean 0 actual restrictions, up to and including personal possession of icbms) I have referred derogatorily to those who open carry as a specific detestable group and my reasons i find THEM so specifically objectionable. Thats it. Ive even ceded from the start that it may be a right, with the caveat that it's a stupid right to excersize.
     
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  6. Dave_in_AZ

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    So the people that open carry aren't like climate change freaks, and nazi's then?
     
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  7. skallagrime

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    Similarities in thought patterns do not mean they are the same thing.

    and dont think i didnt see the way you are trying to have me agree to something i never said, "nazis" came up in context of people overhyping racism, I drew no comparison between nazis and open carry.
     
  8. Dave_in_AZ

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    Oh we thought your post introduced them to the thread, along with climate change.
     
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  9. skallagrime

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    Im not going to play your game dave, i forget too frequently that 1/2 the tbings you say are honest and the othef half are to mess with people
     
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  10. Dave_in_AZ

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    No game. Your post introduced nazi's and climate change. Your post says people have irrational fear of "X'. You and the other's like you never answer anything, just spin. Then when examples are given, links and videos provided of current events, that directly dispute your claims you clam up and ignore.

    Let's have some stats on workplace shootings since the mass shooting door was opened.

    Let's have some current stats on how well California's, the toughest gun control laws on the books, laws are working.

    Let's have some real stats, rather than air.

    Being as your side allegedly likes facts
     
  11. skallagrime

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    Oh, being honest are you?

    So are you just bad at reading comprehension? Do you not understand just ANY abstractions?

    YOU seem to *think* that when I brought in completely unrelated examples as case illustrations of how people, that is to say humans, are BAD at understanding risk and very susceptible to the "availability heuristic", instead of understanding what i wrote, you thought what? That I was calling you a woke climate change catastrophist?

    Please tell me what "my side" is, if youre going to say im in the pro gun control camp, I refer you back to my statement that i personally take the second amendment to be so absolute that nothing but not having the cash or land should prevent me from having a personally owned icbm (intercontinental ballistic missle)

    so yeah, I really cant be much more clear than that. Bye
     
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