Any insider understand how large carriers calculate rates

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  1. Nobroker

    Nobroker Medium Load Member

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    Obviously a driver's time isn't included, but is there a formula with size and weight. Is there any consideration for value of the vehicles.
     
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  3. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    We aren't a really large carrier, but when I was in the office, I made up a spreadsheet that I could copy and paste the distribution into and it would calculate the load factors for different mileage ranges and use the mix to calculate the average revenue. So you could play with the gate fees and column rates and see how it affected the truck revenue for the various mileage ranges.

    This was for bidding ramp freight and spot buys from new car manufacturers , and it was a handy tool.
     
  4. Banker

    Banker Road Train Member

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    Hypothetically I have heard of someone “allegedly” bidding a 2500 and or 3500 the same as a 1500. Guess who’s rig wouldn’t haul a 2500 and or 3500 for the same $$$$$ as a 1500?
     
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  5. Nobroker

    Nobroker Medium Load Member

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    Hopefully you lol
    The closest I came to seeing real numbers was a dispatch page I'm sure was sent by accident two or three years ago West Point to DFW
    Sorrento's were $530 and Optimas were $450 . Makes sense three years later they want them moved for $360 Telluride's load mixed $2800. Three years ago I $3400 average. And even in Texas fuel is average $4.40 now.
     
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  6. NuCar Carrier

    NuCar Carrier Light Load Member

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    I'd love to know the actual rates for the Vettes I haul, that would give some insight if there is a value added rate with GM. I know when I hauled Mercedes from the E coast in the 80's the rate was garbage.
    My experience with real OEM rates is decades old as an O/O for NuCar Carriers but given the industry, I don't think the rate structures have changed much. Also for perspective, in 1979 when I worked for Baker Driveaway/AlphaX out of Detroit, Chrysler pick up trucks paid 50 cents/car/mile to BFE WVa, obviously an exceptional rate but it shows that OEMs are capable of paying it.
     
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  7. NuCar Carrier

    NuCar Carrier Light Load Member

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    Ford rates were Ok, GM's were fantastic out of Lordstown but there were some exceptions on the contract rates.
    The Ford contract rate out of Wayne, Mi had a high rent area around Peoria, Illinois that paid 25% more for no reason and pickups paid the same as an Escort.
     
  8. Banker

    Banker Road Train Member

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    Glovis was paying $150 bonus a unit that some of the carriers weren’t passing along. The carriers passing it along to the driver recently had a waiting list to get a job there. Those that didn’t pass it along have hundreds of trucks without drivers.
     
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  9. Nobroker

    Nobroker Medium Load Member

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    It would take a honest upright carrier/broker to pass any bonus to a hauler.
     
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  10. Kawinige01

    Kawinige01 Heavy Load Member

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    How do the overflow rates get so high? But normal rates are trash?
     
  11. Nobroker

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    Consider yourself lucky if you are getting any rates you think are high.
     
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