Brokers offer transparency. Imagine that!

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  1. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    It’s just humorous to me how they knowingly enter into a competitive industry and the minute things aren’t going their way they cry and want the competition taken out of the industry.

    When my grandma passed away I found a bunch of old stuff in her basement. I have an old PUC map of South Dakota with the “official” mileages between towns and a bunch of old rate sheets for different commodities. There were old letters from the PUC when someone else would apply for authority and copies of the letters my grandpa sent back requesting a hearing because the other person’s services weren’t needed. Some of the names came up multiple times because their authority would be denied and they’d keep trying and keep having hearings about it. It’s interesting to see all that old stuff. South Dakota intrastate was regulated up into the mid-90’s or so and it was pretty hard to get. I remember after dad passed my mom sold our intrastate authority for around $15k, and then a couple years after that it was useless. And now you can’t hardly make a living running local in South Dakota unless you’re pulling big doubles and grossing 150k.
     
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  3. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    Look at the big picture. We compete among ourselves but also within external factors.
    Wanting to stack the cards in you favor is precisely a competitive measure.

    Maybe you are confused with which side you're on but shippers and brokers are the guys with the money and the ultimate objective of ours is to take it from them by all possible means.

    Ask this: Does transparency hurt carriers, in a short or long term?
    Answer: No
    Does it help?
    Hell, yeah...
    How does it help?!
    By closing the relationship gap between the shipper and the carrier. Making the role of the broker that less relevant.

    Look at it from a moral angle too. If you are a farmer working their land for the most part of the year, and at the end of a day, it is a broker on a commodity market who gets to gather all the cream from the transaction, there is something wrong with that picture, is it not?
     
  4. Long FLD

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    It is very much a broker on the commodity market that decides what a farmers crop is worth. Do you think elevators and feed mills are paying more than what the market is for the day?

    How would transparency effect the load to truck ratio? That’s the reality that you guys are dealing with. It’s way too easy to become a carrier and now you’re dealing with way too many trucks and not enough loads.
     
  5. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    To illustrate this better - stacking the deck of cards in your favor , not only I want the transparency, but also 15% cap for the proceeds - precisely as in that mocking meme - and also
    1. Mandated detention of min $100 after 2 hours up to 24 hours
    2. Mandated layover of $1500 after 24 hours
    3. no ELDs, preferably no HOS - well, by proving safe driving for the last 1000 000 miles.

    that's from the top of my head.
     
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  6. TallJoe

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    It would not, most of the card games have some - competitive - elements impossible to control. Truck to load ratio is not what the transparency advocacy is for.

    The farmer example was to serve the purpose of catching you by the conscience. Referring to the humanistic aspects of how the world was built. I'd like to think that it was not all greed and insidious craft but, indeed, the ethic of work that determined how the fair share of proceeds were distributed.
    I am thinking that it is not too Marxist to say that those who work should eat first.

    Paraphrasing, those who buy fuel and tires ought to be paid first from the shippers' money.
     
  7. TallJoe

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    And only then let them compete per load to truck ratio.
     
  8. wichris

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    Have to love it when:
    Someone wants to cap one persons profit but not theirs.
    Standard prices for what they want but not what they pay.
     
  9. TallJoe

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    Have to love when someone wants to cap profits of the "Jew of Venice" not a poor potter.
     
  10. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    The reasons there's brokers:
    No sales ability

    If any sales ability:
    Three different rates in one day for the same load
    I don't want to go there
    Someone else pays $50 more
    And on and on.
     
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    So you want a state run profit limit. Sounds like something that has not worked anywhere.
     
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