DOT violation warning questions

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  1. BillyBobFrank

    BillyBobFrank Light Load Member

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    Two questions for y'all:
    1) I received a violation warning and not a written violation, for a minor leak on the inside of the hub of one of my trailer tires. I was told by safety this warning would go on my report and could affect me in the future. Does this sound right to you?
    2) Getting the correct angle to more thoroughly see inside the brakes on the back side of the hub requires me to crab walk underneath the trailer behind the tandems, then pull myself underneath the axles. There must be a better way, right?
     
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  3. Thrasher28

    Thrasher28 Road Train Member

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    It will go on your record. It's a very minor thing to have on your record. It will not be on your MVR and it certainly wont hurt your employment unless you really start racking up equipment violations. Wheel seals are very important though and NEED to be checked by every driver. A small leak can turn into brakes catching fire or a hub destroying itself when you least expect it. It's not common, but it's certainly not unheard of. If you've ever seen smoke coming off a drivers tandems for seemingly no reason, it's probably a hub that's been ran dry.

    Anyways, the easiest way is to carry a piece of cardboard if you don't want to lay on bare ground and just scoot yourself underneath the trailer. I wouldn't say it's something that really needs checked daily, but I'd say for every new trailer you pick up and every few days following. If it's completely blown, you'll see oil on your brakes (very flammable under that much friction/heat) and you'll see it on the inside of your wheels. Oil bath hubs are known to spring leaks from both sides over time. The seals like to start leaking -- especially at drop and hook carriers where trailers sit around for a while.
     
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  4. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Did you get a cvsa inspection form with a violation on it?

    The reason I ask is a lot of LEO's call that a warning. It's not. It's a violation.

    But like said, it's a very minor one that will get forgotten about and ignored in interviews
     
  5. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Pretty sad when your afraid to get underneath and check your brakes.

    My trailer has a bearing seal leak.
    It's getting fixed tomorrow.
     
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  6. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    2) nothing in the FMCSA pre-trip standards requires you be comfortable, clean, etc when doing a pre-trip. You can carry a piece of cardboard and lay it on the ground and then lay on that cardboard and slide yourself around, or use something like a mechanic's creeper which is useless on gravel. You can also use a remote camera or inspection camera on your phone.
     
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  7. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Like @ZVar said If the violation warning is on an Inspection Form then it's a violation. It will be on your PSP report for 3 years. The severity will be cut by 1/3 every 365 days from the date of the violation. It's a small violation. You can get a copy of your official PSP report for $10 from the FMCSA
    Pre-Employment Screening Program
     
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  8. buzzarddriver

    buzzarddriver Road Train Member

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    Thats why you carry a set of insulated waterproof coveralls.
     
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  9. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    That is one for tankers, you can see everything without getting on the ground.

    Most useful when in the plant where you get warned to NOT step in the puddles...........
     
  10. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    I always got on my knees with my tanker.
     
  11. BillyBobFrank

    BillyBobFrank Light Load Member

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    I received an inspection form, but it says it was a warning. There was no fine associated with it.
     
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