Fudging the speed limit

Well if he wants to run 55 slow mo snail pace thats fine but i always run 60 so it doesnt feel so slow, that 55 will put a monkey to sleep, in washington state its 60 for trucks i do 65, oregon 55 i do 60, idaho its 65 i do 70, not once have i ever got stopped for 5 over in a big truck or my own vehicle.

 

I always ran 62 in cali, and slowhio and ran 65 in IL, and was only stopped once in ohio for running 50 in a 45 and the officer let me off with a warning. 55 is such a snail pace when you have to do it all day...........

 

I reckon I'll see y'all "out there".

I'll do my damdest not to impede my fellow drivers, and keep my arse over in the right lane!

 

2 year suspension for 5 over the speed limit?
you're telling me youve never exceeded the speed limit? never went down a hill and truck sped up a little more than expected? never sped up 2 over to pass someone doing 2 under?

How do you know your speedometer is accurate? I drive a freightliner and not only does the speedometer read 2mph over actual speed (verified by GPS and radar warning signs) on every freightliner i've driven, and it lags. a lot sometimes. It can read as much as 5 over actual speed for short periods of time.

I usually use the GPS instead of my speedometer in the truck. My car's speedometer has worse accuracy.

What makes you think the radar in a cop car is accurate? If they are not stopped when making the measurement, they have to make a calculation off the speedometer. I don't know if the radar does this automatically or if the cop has to manually figure it out, but....if you're coming at them and they're doing 55 and you're doing 55, radar speed would be 110. therefore the cop's speed has to be subtracted from radar speed. Most speedometers are....not accurate. Just like in my car and freightliner.

THATS exactly why the 5 over rule came about. Thankfully most speedometers read LESS than actual speed.

Also, don't know if you've noticed, but when regular cops do a speed trap on the highway in a split speed limit area, they have the radar set to beep at a speed above the car speed limit. they're only after cars, and you can do the car speed limit past them and not get caught...

but if you pass a DOT.....and in most states they dont look much different.....

In some cities you can get tickets for doing the speed limit. It's "impeding traffic".

I have to say, there are some roads where you cant safely drive a truck the speed limit under due to red light timing on 55mph routes through populated-not-quite-rural-not-quite-urban areas. You either slow down or you run lights because you cant stop.

Or other reasons. I remember one road in new hampshire (dont remember which one), it was very curvy and hilly and I was doing about 20 on it, but iirc the speed limit was 45. Cars were lining up behind me. Mostly had no shoulder and no passing. I sped up when I could but it didn't help much. Thankfully there were a few widespots, so whenever I saw one I'd put my flashers on and pull over and let them pass. In California, this is actually state law, but it's the courteous thing to do anywhere...I sure get mad if i get stuck behind a truck for a long time too.


The only time I ever had a speeding ticket, I was doing 15 over (in my car) but the cop gave me a break and wrote it for 5 over. I didn't mean to. You think i should lose my license for 2 years for that? The speed limit goes from 30 to 45 in a short area, i was less than 1/2 mile from the speed limit change, and I anticipated the change and...well, i didn't mean to do 45 until i was in the 45 zone, you know?

In my county we can "plead guilty with explanation" to tickets. It's not fighting the ticket so you don't have to go in front of a judge in court. You check the box on the ticket and go to the clerk and they drag out a magistrate for you to talk to. You tell the magistrate your excuse, he yells at you a little, and he can lower it if he wants. He basically told me i was lucky the cop wrote it for 5 over (the cops here write on the ticket the actual radar speed), that i shouldve known better, etc, etc, and then knocked $20 off it. I'm plenty willing to get yelled at a little by a magistrate for $20!

It was my fault but it's not a real crime. The speed limit in that area is designed to do this to people. It's on main street right after it leaves downtown, about 2 miles from the city police station, and the cops are all over it all the time, and people get pulled over all the time there.

Hell, by the time I actually pulled over for the cop, I was in the 45 zone. There's no shoulder, just a curb and a traffic lane, and so I pulled into the next side street that I could get onto without getting rearended by the cop.

 

Though I agree with the spirit of your post, I'm calling bovine excrement. The judge would laugh this out of court. Please post links to newspaper articles, or or other form of evidence.

Tazz- that's an awfully authoritarian viewpoint for an objectivist. Should Galt have taken a leadership role to the looters? It would have been following their law. There can be no contradictions, remember.

With the advances in truck technology since the roads were designed, I would say that speed limits can safely be exceeded under the right circumstances. Will I risk my license because of this? No way.

 

It totally depends on the state, the location within the state and the trooper. I've gotten written and verbal (via the CB or in person) warnings from Wyo. Troopers for 10 over on US 85, and I've gotten speeding tickets from Nebraska Troopers for 5 over on US 385. It all depends on the trooper, his mood, and where at. Between my speedo and my gps, my cruise control is set at 67mph, that is what my speedo shows, at that speed my gps shows 65.5 mph. I will say that the biggest pain in the rear troopers are the one's who work the western 1/3 of Nebraska, basically from US 83 west, specifically the pan handle area being the absolute biggest revenue generators.

Colorado, generally on the two lanes, will not hassle you if your within 3 to 5 over. Although, on I-76 from Brush to the state line, while the speed limit is 75 mph, they generally don't begin enforcement until 82 mph, with the actual average speed on that stretch is 82 mph. There are people who are trying to get them to raise the limit on that stretch to 80 mph so that there will no longer be a "grace" limit.

 

So you feel it's perfectly okay, that a family of 5 gets killed by an overly aggressive driver that was attempting to get around your law abiding ### ??

Here's a tip for you...DON'T move in the house directly across from me.

Our local law allows me to target practice with my guns, within the city limits. So what if you get hit with a stray, I was legal when I pulled the trigger.

 

There is no contradiction.Speed limits are set up rightly or wrongly(amount not that the limits exist) for safety.Now could they be raised or lowered?Yes, but that is a separate discussion.

Now if you wish to build your own road and drive without limit's but the public stepped in I would agree they have no right to rule.

But as collective roads are what we are discussing,that is to say roads payed for by the general public,we must accept the public's rules.

 

The law also states you are both criminally and civilly responsible for every round you fire.Not to mention the simple fact of return fire

And yes I would say it is the "overly aggressive drivers" fault that he ran over a family of five.

By your reasoning the pedophile is justified because clothing designers model suggestive clothes






And to those asking if I'm serious about a conviction of exceeding the legally posted speed limit by 5 or more mph.Yes.

I saw a couple that state that is the penalty for DUI.I respond a DUI deserves minimum 5 (20 if the driver is involved in an accident)years in prison and lifetime revocation.The people that are convicted of clouding their mind and then getting into a 3000 weapon are just as criminal as the robber that points a gun and accidentally shoots a store clerk.Same for hitting an LEO, road worker, etc......

Yes not all speedo's are exactly accurate.That is why the 4 mph leeway.That does not give you the right to be 4 miles over,it is a measure to allow for mechanical discrepancy.

 

Fortunately the various regulatory and legislative bodies responsible for enforcing speed limits has a more intelligent outlook than yours. (I didn't really think it would be possible to make that statement with a straight face. )