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Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by sonofsilence, Oct 20, 2023.

  1. sonofsilence

    sonofsilence Light Load Member

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    True, no one here has accused me of being on drugs. That's only the sense that I get whenever I apply for a trucking job and am told every time "No, we don't hire 'SAP drivers.'" I also get it that some of you will never agree with me that I was not at fault. That's okay. I know one thing for sure that no one can ever take away from me. I was NOT on drugs or alcohol. I also know that I am a good, responsible, conscientious truck driver, and I WILL get my career back.
     
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  3. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    First I’ve heard of that, believe it or not.

    I wondered how that happens on the road.
     
  4. sonofsilence

    sonofsilence Light Load Member

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    No, but when a company inn
    What "green book?" No one ever gave me any green book or told me about it, and there was no green book on my truck. I knew every square inch of my truck. No green book.That said, after everything I've gone through, I'd say I have become something of an expert in the area of FMCAS Drug and alcohol compliance policy.
     
  5. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    You are at fault. I agree with you that there was probably a lot of stuff that didn’t get covered at orientation because they want to get people out and into the trucks. I agree with you that your company dropped the ball in this situation. However it is also your responsibility to know the regulations of the industry that you’re choosing to work in. It’s up to you and you alone to know the rules and to protect your license. If you would’ve put the effort into learning the regulations beforehand that you’ve put into researching the SAP program since it happened it would be an entirely different outcome.

    I got called for a random last year and once inside I realized my dumb self had left my license in the truck. I told the person at the desk and they sent someone outside with me while I grabbed it and walked back inside. If I had brain fart and just turned around to go get it I’d be in the same boat as you.
     
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  6. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    You are required to have this in your truck. It should’ve been given to you at orientation. There’s a page that you sign in the front when it’s given to you.

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  7. sonofsilence

    sonofsilence Light Load Member

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    non sequitur: "failure to remain at drug testing facility"="refusal to test"="positive drug test."
     
  8. sonofsilence

    sonofsilence Light Load Member

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    I don't make excuses, I make reasons, and no, what I thought when leaving testing facility, since I could not get "authorization"to take test and had a load waiting to go pick up was that a test would be rescheduled. I never think I'm going to fail because I am not a failure. I am a winner, and I WILL win.
     
  9. sonofsilence

    sonofsilence Light Load Member

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    I only wish I had had that book in my truck.
     
  10. sonofsilence

    sonofsilence Light Load Member

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    Nope, not my fault. Never signed in. Was not permitted to sign in, and unlike you, no one told me not to leave. To the contrary, when I got back to my truck there was a message from DM, presumably, that I had a load to go get.
     
  11. sonofsilence

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    From what I know from my research, the "sign-in" at "collection site" is what initiates "chain-of-custody" of the "sample." No sign-in, then it redounds to the company to decide whether to flag you or not in the Clearinghouse. In my case, my company, Western Express, chose the low road.
     
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