inspection rules?????

harleyg · Mar 24, 2010

pre trip/post trip.> how bout' a box truck below 26,000 no air brakes,just a simple (RYDER,U-HAUL) type delivery truck.. carries no haz. mat., but is registered DOTvehicle..QUESTION>> does this type vehicle require e'day inspesctions that need to be documented as class a rules within a company?? neaning the truck is maintained and inspedcted every day my question is legally does my home office need to file such copies as the general rule?? NEED FEEDBACK THANKS

GasHauler · Mar 25, 2010

If you don't carry hazmat or people you are not a Commercial Vehicle if your truck is less 16,00lbs. You are not subject to the laws of a CMV.

However, to CYOA I would document a pre-trip and post trip inspection if I was using that truck for any distance. Plus I would follow any company rules that they have imposed. But this is not a FMCSR requirement. The company can impose whatever rule it what's to protect them.

phroziac · Mar 25, 2010

and if thats a big uhaul truck its going to fail a pre-trip 90% of the time..

Mike_MD · Mar 25, 2010

harleyg said: ↑

pre trip/post trip.> how bout' a box truck below 26,000 no air brakes,just a simple (RYDER,U-HAUL) type delivery truck.. carries no haz. mat., but is registered DOTvehicle..QUESTION>> does this type vehicle require e'day inspesctions that need to be documented as class a rules within a company?? neaning the truck is maintained and inspedcted every day my question is legally does my home office need to file such copies as the general rule?? NEED FEEDBACK THANKS
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The definition of a CMV starts at 10,001 pounds for DQ files; HOS; and maintenance:

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu.../fmcsrruletext.aspx?chunkKey=0901633480023892

§390.5 Definitions.

Unless specifically defined elsewhere, in this subchapter:

Commercial motor vehicle means any self-propelled or towed motor vehicle used on a highway in interstate commerce to transport passengers or property when the vehicle (1) Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating, or gross vehicle weight or gross combination weight, of 4,536 kg (10,001 pounds) or more, whichever is greater; or
(2) Is designed or used to transport more than 8 passengers (including the driver) for compensation; or
(3) Is designed or used to transport more than 15 passengers, including the driver, and is not used to transport passengers for compensation; or
(4) Is used in transporting material found by the Secretary of Transportation to be hazardous under 49 U.S.C. 5103 and transported in a quantity requiring placarding under regulations prescribed by the Secretary under 49 CFR, subtitle B, chapter I, subchapter C.

Motor vehicle means any vehicle, machine, tractor, trailer, or semitrailer propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used upon the highways in the transportation of passengers or property, or any combination thereof determined by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, but does not include any vehicle, locomotive, or car operated exclusively on a rail or rails, or a trolley bus operated by electric power derived from a fixed overhead wire, furnishing local passenger transportation similar to street-railway service.
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For CDL and D & A testing it's 26,001 pounds:

§382.107 Definitions.
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Words or phrases used in this part are defined in §§386.2 and 390.5 of this subchapter, and §40.3 of this title, except as provided in this section

Commercial motor vehicle means a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles used in commerce to transport passengers or property if the vehicle (1) Has a gross combination weight rating of 11,794 or more kilograms (26,001 or more pounds) inclusive of a towed unit with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds); or
(2) Has a gross vehicle weight rating of 11,794 or more kilograms (26,001 or more pounds); or
(3) Is designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver; or
(4) Is of any size and is used in the transportation of materials found to be hazardous for the purposes of the Hazardous Materials Transportation Act (49 U.S.C. 5103(b)) and which require the motor vehicle to be placarded under the Hazardous Materials Regulations (49 CFR part 172, subpart F).
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http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu.../fmcsrruletext.aspx?chunkKey=0901633480023862

§383.5 Definitions.

As used in this part:

Commercial motor vehicle (CMV) means a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles used in commerce to transport passengers or property if the motor vehicle (a) Has a gross combination weight rating of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more) inclusive of a towed unit(s) with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds); or
(b) Has a gross vehicle weight rating of 11,794 or more kilograms (26,001 pounds or more); or
(c) Is designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver; or
(d) Is of any size and is used in the transportation of hazardous materials as defined in this section.
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