Need to drive nights

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  1. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    So just a legal issue, if you are working this "second" job and you are in violation of HOS, the hours worked goes against your clock. This means if you get into an accident, and it goes to court, the ambulance chasing POS lawyer will find your second income, and use it against you plus the company.

    You can't hide this stuff.
     
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  3. Jamie01

    Jamie01 Light Load Member

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    I wondered about this. The HOS regulations define on-duty as including "performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier." Does trading on your own account meet this definition? Not that I would want to have to convince a jury that this is a meaningful distinction.
     
  4. The_vett

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    This brings up an interesting question.
    According to HOS a Driver is not allowed to "work" any more than 14 hour a day? Or is it 11 hrs? I am not familiar with HOS , and I do not understand all of the to me complicated workings of , two clocks , 14 hrs, 10 hr break, 34 hr reset , whatever a reset is, split sleeping, time to get to work , time to get home, NONE of it do i understand.
    My questions are these , Do whoever controls the HOS OWN the Truck Driver? HOS and other PTB seem to regulate a drivers hours 24/24. which adds up to a persons life. Not job but life. They dedicate themselves , they should be raking in a whole lot more money. A job runs a lot of our life, for the Truck Driver it runs his whole life.

    Something I would like to add is it has been proven that Saturday is the most crashes and fatalities in the USA. It is no coincidence that the LEAST amount of Truck Drivers are on the road on Saturday.
    Another large fact is when I look up crash stats , the always say down since HOS, (even then super small percent) however they use they use the covid years to be down (when regular people were not on the road), but MANY TRUCK DRIVERS WERE. That tells nothing about HOS , it says much about the non professional driver. Truck Drivers literally make our highways, roads, streets, safer .

    Forgive my mistakes, I don't know a whole lot of things but I know what I know if you know what I mean.
    Thank You Drivers one and all.
     
  5. Rideandrepair

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    UPS line haul, or a large Fed Ex Contract Carrier. Another choice depending on your location would be Postal Carriers. Very good hourly pay. Usually not many hours. 5 hrs day/6 days week BS.
     
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  6. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

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    If you're open to local work, fuel haulers have a night shift that usually finishes around 6AM.
     
  7. drivingmissdaisy

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    It's not legal to work a 2nd job as a truck driver unless you log all hours at the other job as "on duty not driving."

    This prevents a driver from hopping into another truck, or going to work at a 2nd job, during his 34 reset where he's supposed to be getting rest.
     
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  8. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    Surprised nobody responded to this.

    As a truck driver, you are not allowed to be on duty more than 14 hours in a day. On duty can be driving, pre trips, fueling the truck, any work that you do for the motor carrier. However, in that 14 hour "window" you can't drive more than 11 hours in total. In that 11 hours, you can't drive more than 8 at one time without taking at least a 30 minute break. This is to prevent a driver from driving 11 hours without stopping, which would, theoretically, be dangerous because he'd be fatigued. The 14 hour window is to prevent a driver who starts driving at 2am to still be driving at 11pm after he'd been up 21 hours. All of these "clocks" are there to try to prevent drivers from driving without proper rest or breaks.

    A 34 hour reset is a 34 hour period, where the driver is totally off duty and relieved of all work, and after that 34 hour period is up he gets ALL of his drive time back, a full 70 hours for the week, 14 for the day, 11 for the drive and 8 for the break. Split sleeper is where you split your 10 hour rest break into two pieces. 7hrs and 3hrs or 8hrs and 2 hrs, actually 9 hours and 1 hour I think works too.

    Nobody but the driver controls his HOS. He is responsible for accurately recording what he does and when he does it. Nobody owns the truck driver in this regard. But yes, being a truck driver ALL 24 hours of every day must be accounted for. Even for home time. They are logged as "off duty", but they are logged. The DOT does not want ONE hour where you can't tell him or her exactly what you were doing and where. Even if the answer was "I was on home time." That's fine, but that's an actual answer. You don't get much privacy as a truck driver. It's just part of the job.
     
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  9. Jamie01

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    Actually, you're just not allowed to drive more than 14 hours after you came on duty. You can do non-driving work, for a trucking company or another employer, beyond the 14-hour mark for as long as you want, but you can't drive again until you take your 10-hour break.
     
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  10. The_vett

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    Thank You,
    I have much respect for Drivers, and the more I learn the more it grows.

    Stay safe. Stay alive. All of you. I am very grateful you are out there keeping our roads safer.
     
  11. drivingmissdaisy

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    Yea that gets complicated to explain. Just explaining it as a window is much easier.
     
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